Yep...you know what they say about opinions...
So, still trying to figure out what you actually wanted to debate in this thread?
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Are all atheists facing Hell?
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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Yep...you know what they say about opinions...
So, still trying to figure out what you actually wanted to debate in this thread?
No. It is not. You can't really put aside the plain contradiction of the premise. Either your god is at least halfway moral, or atheists should fear hell. You can't reconcile the two statements with each other.
Pascal's Wager is a mishappen joke.
Which says a lot more about the worth of scripture than it says about atheism.
Desert Snake
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No. And the common idea of satanism, the atheistic parody, isn't any authority concerning actual religious satanism.
If the Koran is true, all but Moslem's face hell. Any book of myths can make a claim. That doesn't mean we have to take that claim seriously.
We face hell only if hell actually exists. The Bible isn't a reliable source of information. Nor is the Koran.
Desert Snake
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Really? Then you would disagree with the moralistic arguments as well, yet you never do. There is no theism, yet there is morality? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Morality isn't about following what a supernatural entity commands.
It's about caring about people. No deity is required for that.
Desert Snake
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I personally don't subscribe to the idea that all atheism is the same. Also, you are agnostic, I would advise against lumping yourself together with the 'atheism' belief set.
Are all people wishing hell upon others facing hell?
I mean, atheists going to hell would validate your viewpoint: That atheists go to hell, and that there's a hell in the first place.
Do you wish it?
I say no matter how you reply to this, there's enough evidence to suggest that you are actually wishing hell upon others. And for this reason alone, IF your view is correct, then you shall be there beforehand to show the place around to dem atheists.
I say by merely forming the thought to make this thread, you have sinned and will go to hell if your views are correct.
I mean, atheists going to hell would validate your viewpoint: That atheists go to hell, and that there's a hell in the first place.
Do you wish it?
I say no matter how you reply to this, there's enough evidence to suggest that you are actually wishing hell upon others. And for this reason alone, IF your view is correct, then you shall be there beforehand to show the place around to dem atheists.
I say by merely forming the thought to make this thread, you have sinned and will go to hell if your views are correct.
"The Bible says atheists are going to Hell" <> "atheists are going to Hell."
Desert Snake
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That's abstract, yet ok, so atheists are going to Hell, if your theory were correct.
Desert Snake
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Sort of. If you believe in Hell, /many religions used to, then it can be considered outside a biblical context.
Some religions are atheistic, and some religions lack the concept of hell.
Desert Snake
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I didn't write the bible, and the second part is your theory, not mine.
You were the one who brought up the Bible. In any case, it's also true that "syncretic thinks atheists are going to Hell" <> "atheists are going to Hell."
IMO, trying to figure out who's going to Hell before you even establish that Hell exists at all is putting the cart before the horse.
What second part? I say it's one part, and your failure for not realizing this.
Try this: What does the bible say about hypocrites?
Desert Snake
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Try a comparison. Hell belief is very common.
So is belief in santa claus.