Another Creationist Teacher Bites The Dust

[McBell]

The only thing that might validate the movie Expelled is Daffy Duck.

You are brave.
Do not be surprised if Daffy Duck sues you for slander.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Nothing can validate the movie Expelled.

Except Daffy Duck.

In the fresh.

 

[JustWondering2]

This is how the ToE is kept alive. If people were allowed to look at evolution critically then it wouldn't stand up. This validates the movie Expelled. The elite evolutionists are laughing at the herd of masses that they are brain washing.

Funny MoF!! So you think it (ToE) should be debated in an 8th grade science class HUH? I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that discussion. Do you really think 8th graders know enough about science and it's methods to debate ToE? Or are you saying your side (creationist/YEers/bible fundamentalist/etc) would like to get a hold of our kids at an early age so you can plant the seed of your fairy tales before they are old enough to tell the difference, right? Go idea! Teach em myth instead of science so we can go back to the dark ages again!! You like medicine much? Leeches and blood letting? :no:

 

[Lindsey-Loo]

This guy is a total nutjob. Apparently he was also branding his students with crosses.

An Ohio science teacher has been fired for not only attempting to preach Christian beliefs to his classes, but for taking it even further by using a scientific device to BURN the image of a cross into his students' arms!
Holy shiz!
The Mount Vernon school board reportedly attempted to have him dismissed after complaints that John Freshwater kept a Bible on his desk, but for some crazy reason he was able to successfully appeal the ruling.
However, after news came to light about the cross burnings, the school board accepted a state official's recommendation to terminate him last night, effective at midnight.
Unbelievable. So many layers of absolutely unbelievable.

So sick. I'm glad they fired him. A guy like that doesn't have any business around kids. What a psycho.

 

[croak]

Mr. Steve Thompson: Nay

I wonder why.

 

[McBell]

I wonder why.

There was essentially no public discussion by the Board after the executive session and little before it. What little discussion there was before the executive session was generated by Steve Thompson, Board member and public Freshwater supporter. Thompson said that he had recused himself from deliberations on the federal litigation (though not from administrative hearing deliberations) on advice from attorneys David Millstone and Sarah Moore (as had Barone), and he wanted to know what was different that allowed Barone to withdraw her self-recusal regarding administrative hearing matters. Thompson said “I find a tremendous amount of hypocrisy in that decision.”
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[bobhikes]

This is how the ToE is kept alive. If people were allowed to look at evolution critically then it wouldn't stand up. This validates the movie Expelled. The elite evolutionists are laughing at the herd of masses that they are brain washing.

I got admit, I just spent another 2 hours searching the internet for anything against evolution that was not labeled religious. The scientific community even says the only critism comes from the religious several sites calling for more atheism.

I can't even find one evolutionary biologist creating a path in error or for money apparently evolutionary biologists are the most uncorputable scientists and never make any errors.

It is just to perfect.

 

[outhouse]

I got admit, I just spent another 2 hours searching the internet for anything against evolution that was not labeled religious. The scientific community even says the only critism comes from the religious several sites calling for more atheism.

I can't even find one evolutionary biologist creating a path in error or for money apparently evolutionary biologists are the most uncorputable scientists and never make any errors.

It is just to perfect.

you dont understand do you.

evolution is both fact and theory. :yes:

why would a scientist fight against facts????? why should they ???

 

[Revoltingest]

I wonder how the heck it cost the district $900k?

That evil spawn of evolution: Attornosaurus Rex

 

[bobhikes]

you dont understand do you.

evolution is both fact and theory. :yes:

why would a scientist fight against facts????? why should they ???

Scientist routinely verify and challenge other theories and laws it is what makes science so great. Yet only religious nutcases can challenge evolution no real scientist would even want to.

Scientists pretty routinely make errors and their errors are exposed for all others to prevent future errors. Scientist are also caught tilling the pot or taking money to make a theory that helps the benefitor. Yet none of this happens in evolutional theory.

I understand completely. Its sad that men of reason don't see it.

 

[Skwim]

Scientist routinely verify and challenge other theories and laws it is what makes science so great. Yet only religious nutcases can challenge evolution no real scientist would even want to.

Scientists pretty routinely make errors and their errors are exposed for all others to prevent future errors. Scientist are also caught tilling the pot or taking money to make a theory that helps the benefitor. Yet none of this happens in evolutional theory.

Pulling crap out of thin air is no way to go through life, son.

 

[bobhikes]

Pulling crap out of thin air is no way to go through life, son.

As the evolutionist say prove me wrong.

It would take only one example. One example of a scientist challenging evolution and even proven wrong but he is not labeled as a creationist or a religious nutcase.

I will even accept a scientist that created an evolutionary error by mistake or for self promotion.

Of course from a credible scientific source.

If its all crap it should be fairly easy. 5 minutes tops.

 

[camanintx]

As the evolutionist say prove me wrong.

It would take only one example. One example of a scientist challenging evolution and even proven wrong but he is not labeled as a creationist or a religious nutcase.

I will even accept a scientist that created an evolutionary error by mistake or for self promotion.

Of course from a credible scientific source.

If its all crap it should be fairly easy. 5 minutes tops.

Let's see, there was Jean Baptiste Lamarck and his transmutation of species, James Mark Baldwin and his organic selection and Henry Fairfield Osborn and orthogenesis. None of them were labeled nutcases but they were all eventually proven wrong. The fact that no one has come up with a credible alternative in almost 100 years just speaks to the strength of the Theory of Evolution.

 

[David M]

Over and over again yet it is still a theory.

That is because in science a scientific theory is a good as anything can ever get.

I can find scientific disagreement with just about everything else but not 1 word on scientific disagreement on evolution.

Thats because there is no evidence that contradicts the core concepts of the diversity of current species arising via descent with modification.

Newton, Einstien, etc can all be questioned and scientifically as well but no one can question evolution scientifically. It seem to me as evolution is the equivalent of god for science.

Yes, questioned by evidence. e.g. There was observed evidence that Newton explanation for gravity did not quite work on very large scales. However no credible questioner proposed that gravity was in fact angels pushing everything down.

 

[Big_TJ]

This guy is a total nutjob. Apparently he was also branding his students with crosses.



So sick. I'm glad they fired him. A guy like that doesn't have any business around kids. What a psycho.

It this is true, this guy shouldn't be fired; he should be fired ON!!!!:thud:

 

[Duck]

[/indent]Fine for Mr Freshwater, but I would like to find out why the above quote is impossible to do.

Here is what the internet says.

The scientific evidence supporting this conclusion is overwhelming and there is essentially no real scientific disagreement with this aspect of evolution theory.

Over and over again yet it is still a theory.

I can find scientific disagreement with just about everything else but not 1 word on scientific disagreement on evolution.

Whole portions of evolution such as intelligence will never be proven yet no one disagree's scientifically.

I have to find at least 3 qualified results and 1 qualified negative result before I trust something. I can not trust evolution because I can find no qualified negative results and if one is implied is is quickly ruled unqualified.

Newton, Einstien, etc can all be questioned and scientifically as well but no one can question evolution scientifically. It seem to me as evolution is the equivalent of god for science.

It's to good to be true.

Gravity is also just a theory.

You know what a "theory" is in scientific terms don't you? A theory in science is an explanation for some part of reality that has been tested and is agreed upon by most scientists.

In the event that new evidence or information is found invalidating the currently accepted theory then that theory will be modified.

The usage by a scientist differs greatly from the non-scientists use of the word. A lay person (a non-scientist) might talk about a 'theory' as an unproven idea, or something the lay person is not certain of, but a scientist probably wouldn't.

 

[camanintx]

It this is true, this guy shouldn't be fired; he should be fired ON!!!!:thud:

Such comments are totally uncalled for. Have you learned nothing from watching the news this last week?

 

[Jacksnyte]

I am waiting for the backlash from christians claiming this as proof of christian "persecution"!

 

[tarasan]

I am waiting for the backlash from christians claiming this as proof of christian "persecution"!

well considering not all christians deny evolution it would be more correct of you to talk about persecution of certian christian sects

 

[Jacksnyte]

well considering not all christians deny evolution it would be more correct of you to talk about persecution of certian christian sects

Good point!