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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez Quotes Bible and Says God Wants Climate Change Controls

Stanyon

WWMRD?
"Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y) on Wednesday responded to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling her to leave climate change up to a “much higher authority” by invoking the Bible.
While not quoting specific verses, the freshman lawmaker invoked scripture in defense of her impassioned pleas to address climate change.
“Genesis 1: God looked on the world & called it good not once, not twice, but seven times,” she tweeted. “Genesis 2: God commands all people to 'serve and protect' creation.”
"Leviticus: God mandates that not only the people, but the land that sustains them, shall be respected," she added.
“You shouldn’t need a Bible to tell you to protect our planet, but it does anyway," she wrote in a follow-up tweet."
Source:
Ocasio-Cortez invokes Bible in response to White House on climate change | TheHill


Great, another theist wanting to gain political power
 

Vouthon

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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez actually practises and espouses Catholic Christian social teachings, unlike many of her peers on the other side of the political aisle.

Would you rather have her or the GOP 'god-botherer, Trump is the new Constantine, God rewards the wealthy, where's my gun and bible' brigade?

I would prefer that arguments in the chamber by lawmakers are articulated with secular rationales, as they tend to be here in the UK. But if one side tries to manipulate religious ethics to promote a draconian alt-right agenda, I'm more than happy for someone to counter that - like for like.
 
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exchemist

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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez actually practises and espouses Catholic Christian social teachings, unlike many of her peers on the other side of the political aisle.

Would you rather have her or the GOP 'god-botherer, Trump is the new Constantine, God rewards the wealthy, where's my gun and bible' brigade?
You left out the oil derrick (Drill, baby, drill"). :D
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
"Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y) on Wednesday responded to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling her to leave climate change up to a “much higher authority” by invoking the Bible.
While not quoting specific verses, the freshman lawmaker invoked scripture in defense of her impassioned pleas to address climate change.
“Genesis 1: God looked on the world & called it good not once, not twice, but seven times,” she tweeted. “Genesis 2: God commands all people to 'serve and protect' creation.”
"Leviticus: God mandates that not only the people, but the land that sustains them, shall be respected," she added.
“You shouldn’t need a Bible to tell you to protect our planet, but it does anyway," she wrote in a follow-up tweet."
Source:
Ocasio-Cortez invokes Bible in response to White House on climate change | TheHill


Great, another theist wanting to gain political power
This is strange.

She's either a DINO or the typical Democrat Playbook being used by siphoning off support from the Republican party demographic over to the Democratic party by spouting platitudes that they want to hear to garner support.
 

Vouthon

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This is strange.

She's either a DINO or the typical Democrat Playbook being used by siphoning off support from the Republican party demographic over to the Democratic party by spouting platitudes that they want to hear to garner support.

She has spoken and written candidly about the influence of her faith on her political persuasions, on many prior occasions. It's not feigned or a strategy - if it were a strategy it would be an enormously poor one since no right-wing Trump-supporting Christian is liable to be endeared to what she's saying.

i.e. for a Jesuit magazine last year:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on her Catholic faith and the urgency of criminal justice reform
 

Estro Felino

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I think her heart is pure...
how can't she realize her party is controlled by shady freemasons...and by Soros &co?
 

columbus

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reat, another theist wanting to gain political power
So she reinterpreted Scripture to suit her modern agenda. She's adding things to the Bible because she feels them important. Despite the fact that climate change wasn't an issue for the primitive folks who wrote it and there's nothing like guidance on the subject.

That worked for the anti-feticide people. And a surprising number of people believe the Bible supports representative government, when it clearly doesn't.
People rewriting the Bible to serve their own agendas isn't exactly new.
Tom
 

Vouthon

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So she reinterpreted Scripture to suit her modern agenda. She's adding things to the Bible because she feels them important. Despite the fact that climate change wasn't an issue for the primitive folks who wrote it and there's nothing like guidance on the subject.

That worked for the anti-feticide people. And a surprising number of people believe the Bible supports representative government, when it clearly doesn't.
People rewriting the Bible to serve their own agendas isn't exactly new.
Tom

She's interpreting the Bible according to the Catholic magisterial and exegetical tradition, which is not limited to the Bible as its sole source of divine revelation and admits of progress of understanding in relation to the deposit of faith.

Whether it be in terms of air pollution, infestation of the oceans with plastic waste, global warming; water scarcity or the felling of trees ("the lungs of the earth") in the Amazon rainforest: the depletion of the world’s natural resources by human beings is outpacing our planet’s ability to absorb the damage wrought. The recognition that there is a close interrelation between environmental degradation and human sinfulness has a long pedigree in Catholicism.

In one of St. Hildegard of Bingen's (1098-1179) visions, she predicted the coming of a period when the environment would be "harmed by the sins of men and women and fall totally into the service of disorder."

Here is what she wrote:


Vision 10: 20

In these days sweet clouds will touch the Earth with a gentle breath and cause the Earth to overflow with the power of greenness and fertility.

Then people will prepare themselves completely for justice, which was lacking in the above mentioned period of weakness, for the elements, harmed by the sins of men and women, had fallen totally into the service of disorder.

The princes and everyone else will put God's decrees into proper practice. They will forbid all weapons used to kill people and only tolerate such iron tools as are needed in farming and for the benefit of humanity.

And just as clouds let down a mild rain suitable for the germination of seeds, the Holy Spirit will pour forth the dew of grace, along with wisdom, prophecy, and holiness, upon people so that, just as if turned around, they will lead different and good lives.

In these days a true summer will reign through God's power because everyone will be steady in the truth: priests and monks, virgins and those who practice celibacy, as well as other classes of society will have their dignity by living well and honorably and by rejecting every kind of arrogance and excessive wealth.

Then, just as through the balance of clouds and air the necessary conditions of life for fertility are created, the seed of spiritual life will sprout through God's grace. These days will be strong and glorious, full of peace and stability.


Anthropogenic global warming and other ecological problems could not have been known to the sacred authors of scripture. But care for the integrity of God's creation in humankind's role as a steward of the natural environment certainly is, and climate change is the greatest threat to it today.

So the application of the former to the latter, in terms of a timeless moral principle derived from natural law applied to a given set of circumstances in modernity, logically follows from a Catholic theological perspective.
 
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columbus

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She's interpreting the Bible according to the Catholic magisterium and exegetical tradition, which is not limited to the Bible as its sole source of divine revelation and admits of progress of understanding in relation to the deposit of faith.
I understand this.
I am very much in support of her underlying motives. I consider climate change the biggest disaster the human race faces, along with the war that will result from powerful trying to protect their privilege from the people who suffer the most from the environmental disaster.

But that said, those same Catholic teachings are staunchly in support of the fundamental problem. Which is population growth. My guess is that AOC ignores Humana Vitae, due to the political inconvenience.
Tom
 

metis

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This is strange.

She's either a DINO or the typical Democrat Playbook being used by siphoning off support from the Republican party demographic over to the Democratic party by spouting platitudes that they want to hear to garner support.
That's quite a bizarre response.
 

Vouthon

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But that said, those same Catholic teachings are staunchly in support of the fundamental problem. Which is population growth. My guess is that AOC ignores Humana Vitae, due to the political inconvenience.
Tom

That's a perfectly valid point, I would be curious to see her response if questioned on this.

Population growth (while not denying that more people require more resources) is arguably less the primary factor than a Western-oriented lifestyle of ceaseless consumption, waste and thirst for profit at the expense of natural habitats, which we sadly have exported worldwide as part of our package of liberal free-market economics.

The Maoist one-child policy (now revoked) has not prevented air pollution in China - the demands of an industrializing and increasingly capitalist economy led to that.
 
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sayak83

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"Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y) on Wednesday responded to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling her to leave climate change up to a “much higher authority” by invoking the Bible.
While not quoting specific verses, the freshman lawmaker invoked scripture in defense of her impassioned pleas to address climate change.
“Genesis 1: God looked on the world & called it good not once, not twice, but seven times,” she tweeted. “Genesis 2: God commands all people to 'serve and protect' creation.”
"Leviticus: God mandates that not only the people, but the land that sustains them, shall be respected," she added.
“You shouldn’t need a Bible to tell you to protect our planet, but it does anyway," she wrote in a follow-up tweet."
Source:
Ocasio-Cortez invokes Bible in response to White House on climate change | TheHill


Great, another theist wanting to gain political power
Great for her. Fully support her
 

Vouthon

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From the 'America' Jesuit magazine:

Yes, democratic socialism is compatible with Catholic social teaching

Europe and Its Discontents | Benedict XVI


Pope Benedict XVI

January 2006


But in Europe, in the nineteenth century, the two models were joined by a third, socialism, which quickly split into two different branches, one totalitarian and the other democratic. Democratic socialism managed to fit within the two existing models as a welcome counterweight to the radical liberal positions, which it developed and corrected. It also managed to appeal to various denominations. In England it became the political party of the Catholics, who had never felt at home among either the Protestant conservatives or the liberals. In Wilhelmine Germany, too, Catholic groups felt closer to democratic socialism than to the rigidly Prussian and Protestant conservative forces. In many respects, democratic socialism was and is close to Catholic social doctrine and has in any case made a remarkable contribution to the formation of a social consciousness.



A lot of folks are unaware that the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) to which Ocasio-Cortez and Rashida Tlaib belong, is indebted in its origins to Catholic Social Teaching as much as it is to social democracy or Marxism-lite (here in the UK, our Labour Party was similarly influenced at the start by Methodism).

See, in relation to its founder Michael Harrington:

Democratic Socialists of America - Wikipedia


The DSA's ideas are somewhat influenced by those of its first chairman Michael Harrington, Chairman of the League for Industrial Democracy (1964) and member of the National Executive Board of the Socialist Party of America (1960–1968). Opposed to capitalism and then-existing versions of socialism alike as cruel and anti-libertarian social systems, Harrington advocated working for a realignment of the Democratic Party, transforming it from an amorphous amalgam of conservative, centrist and left-liberal politicians into something like a Western European social democratic party, within which the DSA would be the anti-capitalist left-wing.

Michael Harrington - Wikipedia

As a young man, he was interested in both leftist politics and Roman Catholicism. He joined Dorothy Day's Catholic Worker Movement, a communal movement that stressed social justice and nonviolence. Harrington enjoyed arguing about culture and politics, and his Jesuit education had made him a good debater and rhetorician.[2]

Harrington was an editor of the newspaper Catholic Worker from 1951 to 1953. However, he became disillusioned with religion. Although he would always retain a certain affection for Catholic culture, he ultimately became an atheist.[8]

In 1978, the periodical Christian Century quoted him: "I am a pious apostate, an atheist shocked by the faithlessness of the believers, a fellow traveler of moderate Catholicism who has been out of the church for 20 years." Harrington observed of himself and his high school classmate, Tom Dooley, that "each of us was motivated, in part at least, by the Jesuit inspiration of our adolescence that insisted so strenuously that a man must live his philosophy."[9]

In "The Politics at God's Funeral",[10] Harrington...proposed that democratic socialism should assume the job of helping to create a moral basis; the goal was to salvage the values of progressive Judaism and Christianity "but not in religious form."


If posters here have read my "off-and-on" quotations from church fathers and traditional Catholic social theorists in various RF threads, this shouldn't be at all surprising.

Ocasio-Cortez is steeped in this heritage of radical, liberation-theology (but-in-orthodox-form) tinged 'Catholic Workerism' that has biblical, patristic and medieval as well as more recent magisterial precedent behind it. Bobby Kennedy, while not as far left, also exuded this kind of radical Catholicism in American politics prior to his unfortunate assassination in 1968.

If she stays true to her principles - the ones I've been outlining sporadically on this very form - the GOP and Democrat party could be in for quite a ride :hearteyecat:

It will be fun to watch.
 
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