You didn’t help. I guess you didn’t read with much comprehension. Pity.
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Alabama Supreme Court declares frozen embryos are legally children
- Thread starter Evangelicalhumanist
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We Never Know
No Slack
Yeah it sure is a pity that you don't have a clue and can't admit you're wrong, again.
Speaking of a lifeless man made from dust/dirt:
Golem - Wikipedia
If Adam was indeed a golem, then the test of not eating from the tree of the knowledge of good an evil would prove that Adam was something more than a mere golem:
From the above article:
The existence of a golem is sometimes a mixed blessing. Golems are not intelligent, and if commanded to perform a task, they will perform the instructions literally. In many depictions, golems are inherently perfectly obedient. In its earliest known modern form, the Golem of Chełm became enormous and uncooperative. In one version of this story, the rabbi had to resort to trickery to deactivate it, whereupon it crumbled upon its creator and crushed him.[3]
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
There are verses that indicate that life begins at thirty days after birth. At the first breath. And some even say at conception. It is not clear at all when the Bible says that life begins. The Bible nowhere opposes abortion and in at least two passages seems to indicate that even a forced abortion is okay and that an accidental one is only worthy of a monetary fine. Now one's personal agenda will often determine which verse a person chooses to support their case. But the antiabortion case in the Bible is very weak. There are special people that God knew of before their birth, but even that is unclear. How far back did God know this person? It does not say at conception, and in fact it could easily be before conception. That is the only verse that even comes close to an antiabortion verse, but again, that was a specific standout person. It was not the run of the mill person.
To me it is rather clear that it is an abuse of the Bible to say that it is antiabortion since the "pro"abortion verses appear to be clearer.
To me it is rather clear that it is an abuse of the Bible to say that it is antiabortion since the "pro"abortion verses appear to be clearer.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Bible Search: breath of life
Bible Search: heartbeat
Breathing is equivalent to living in the Bible. The concept of a heartbeat or brain activity as signs of life are entirely modern.
There are many verses throughout the Bible that talk about the "breath of life."
There are other verses that equate life with the blood. The earliest that we could really say an embryo has blood is around day 20, when it starts to circulate a fluid that has red blood cells in it.
Either way, we're talking about something further along than the 5-day blastocysts used for IVF.
Begging the question. Is a frozen embryo alive? By what definition? How is it different from a frozen fishstick?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
They are not anywhere near as tasty?
Laniakea
Not of this world
Where did I say anything about Zygote?
Laniakea
Not of this world
She broke the law. See post 198, which is what was being addressed.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I may be mistaken but you seem to be the sort that would totally ban abortion. Are you okay with the morning after pill? How about chemical abortions in general?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
How did that address that at all? It looks more as if you were flailing for an excuse.
Laniakea
Not of this world
I'm somewhat open when it comes to saving the life of the mother, or in case of rape.
As for "chemical abortions", you should first look at what that often results in before advocating for it.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You would have to prove that her damages were from a chemical abortion.
But you also showed that my zygote example did apply to where you would ban abortion. Why even post this nonsense if you were going to admit that I was right anyway?
Laniakea
Not of this world
The video is over 10 minutes long and you answered 3 minutes after I posted it. You obviously didn't watch it and learn that the proof was already provided for you, but you refused to see it.
But go ahead, dig yourself deeper.
She broke an unconstitutional law.
So you are fine with crimes by MAGAs, but not for black folks protesting unconstitutional laws.
Do you think black people are equal to white people?
Laniakea
Not of this world
Do you only follow the laws you agree with?
Do you think black people are equal to white people?
Laniakea
Not of this world
Do you only follow the laws you agree with?
We Never Know
No Slack
A frozen fishstick can't become a life so there's that.