Age to buy tobacco products raised to 21

[McBell]

does anyone have handy a link to the actual bill?
I have not been able to find it online.

I do know that it was attached to the spending bill, one of the reasons for the immediate enactment.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Oh good. Yet another unenforceable statute.

Who wants to place bets that the next time I see my 19-year-old daughter that she still has vaping supplies?

Perhaps in part a parenting issue?

 

[SomeRandom]

I can still see benefits to raising the drinking age, though it was 18 when I first came of age. I did lose someone I knew to a drunk driving event, but he was probably of age by then. I do know that our dormitory liked us to have parties in the dorm. It was better than going out drinking and driving. Now college aged kids quite often will drink and drive since they cannot drink where they live.

Oh heck! Let's ban everything.

Personally I think it’s more an issue with culture.
Not that drinking culture in and of itself isn’t replete with issues, mind you.

Now this is purely antidotal and just an odd observation on my part.
But I’ve been out to a party with my American cousins and I’ve been out to a party with my Brit cousins. Both involved heavy binge drinking, because we were dumb kids being dumb kids. But there was this kind of odd quirk I noticed. With my American cousins it was about rebellion and freedom. To the point where, in hindsight, I don’t know what would have happened if an emergency took place. Like even though we weren’t breaking the law, my Yank cousins seemed almost afraid to be “found out” by their parents. With my Brit counterparts, we were reckless and troublemaking. But there was this sense that there was still a safety net. Like even if something happened, the appropriate authorities would step in and help as a matter of course.

I don’t know if I can articulate it properly. But whilst both sets of cousins had an appalling relationship with alcohol (as did I) there was something a bit “off” with regards to my American counterparts. Like a sort of even unhealthier mindset around it. Does that make sense?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Personally I think it’s more an issue with culture.
Not that drinking culture in and of itself isn’t replete with issues, mind you.

Now this is purely antidotal and just an odd observation on my part.
But I’ve been out to a party with my American cousins and I’ve been out to a party with my Brit cousins. Both involved heavy binge drinking, because we were dumb kids being dumb kids. But there was this kind of odd quirk I noticed. With my American cousins it was about rebellion and freedom. To the point where, in hindsight, I don’t know what would have happened if an emergency took place. Like even though we weren’t breaking the law, my Yank cousins seemed almost afraid to be “found out” by their parents. With my Brit counterparts, we were reckless and troublemaking. But there was this sense that there was still a safety net. Like even if something happened, the appropriate authorities would step in and help as a matter of course.

I don’t know if I can articulate it properly. But whilst both sets of cousins had an appalling relationship with alcohol (as did I) there was something a bit “off” with regards to my American counterparts. Like a sort of even unhealthier mindset around it. Does that make sense?

Yes, I can see that. The indulging in the forbidden can make it even more enjoyable. Not that I ever engaged in under age drinking

 

[SomeRandom]

Yes, I can see that. The indulging in the forbidden can make it even more enjoyable. Not that I ever engaged in under age drinking

Oh sure I believe you. Lol
Incidentally in my state there was an old loophole in the law (since closed) which allowed a person who was at least 15 to have a drink in a restaurant when eating with their parents. A sort of hangover from Europe, I guess.
So to me even at that age, yeah alcohol was kind of forbidden. But it was also contextualised as a relaxant. Something you enjoy in moderation with family. I indulged and went nuts when I hit 18. But I was able to have a quiet night with my family with only one or two drinks, without much thought. Although coming from a family of teachers we perhaps had more than one or two lol.

 

[Milton Platt]

Everything should be 18 across the board, including driving licences.

Or not.....Why not 17 or 19 or 20 or 25???