About fossils -- would you say this is true?

[Little Nipper]

Yes, you worship the Bible. I see that.

What do you worship and why?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What do you worship and why?

I worship the Gods, ancestors and nature spirits. Why? Because they're there and I feel moved to.

 

[Little Nipper]

Wow! And obviously, nothing bad at all is happening in more conservative areas, right? You didn't cherry pick, you tried to be fair and representative, right?

Um, quickie question -- in what counties (liberal or conservative) do most tornadoes happen?

You forget a tornado killed the children of Job. It's how Job handled it that demonstrates the difference.

Stats: the states suffering the most from hurricanes are: Florida, Texas, North Carolina, Louisiana, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi. Which of these would you say are Red states versus Blue states?

None of these states can be considered perfect. And it's the citizens that can be Christian. Where the difference lies is among believers.

 

[Little Nipper]

I worship the Gods, ancestors and nature spirits. Why? Because they're there and I feel moved to.

And where did you learn of these creatures? I suggest that you read the Bible for yourself.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And where did you learn of these creatures? I suggest that you read the Bible for yourself.

Animism is something that's always been with me. No one had to tell me and I didn't have to read that nature, animals, plants, etc. are alive and living beings.

I have no problem reading the Bible. It doesn't mean I'm going to change my views over it. Been there, done that.

 

[Little Nipper]

Animism is something that's always been with me. No one had to tell me and I didn't have to read that nature, animals, plants, etc. are alive and living beings.

So you worship your perception and what you think?

I have no problem reading the Bible. It doesn't mean I'm going to change my views over it. Been there, done that.

But at least you will read it?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So you worship your perception and what you think?

What? Your question doesn't make sense to me. No.

But at least you will read it?

Maybe, maybe not. I have a ton of other books that are much higher on my reading list.

 

[Little Nipper]

Um no. There are many people who believe in God and also accept that evolution is a fact of life.
You're confusing "atheist" with "evolutionist." They're not the same.

ANYONE who regarding himself/herself a believer in GOD MUST believe that GOD created life. Evolution is not the same as adaptation.

Doesn't address what was said.

You asked me a question. I gave you an answer.

And now you're equating "lilberals" with "atheists."
Dude, you're all over the map, and not making any sense.

People who only have regard their own desires are one and the same.

People have been making end times predictions since Jesus walked the earth. I'll take yours with the grain of salt it deserves.

The Bible predictions came true and are presently coming true.

 

[Little Nipper]

What? Your question doesn't make sense to me. No.

I believe the Bible is GOD's Word. You seem to indicate that you believe what you came up with yourself. .

Maybe, maybe not. I have a ton of other books that are much higher on my reading list.

You make the choice.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I believe the Bible is GOD's Word. You seem to indicate that you believe what you came up with yourself. .

You make the choice.

I didn't make up Germanic Paganism, it's just that that's what I'm most drawn towards and my worldview and experiences go along with it. It's also a way for me to feel close to at least part of my ethnic heritage and culture, which is important to me.

I've made my choice. I'm not interested in the Jewish god. I'm not Jewish or Middle Eastern, so that has nothing to do with me. Wouldn't join Islam for the same reason. And I'm not going to insult my own ancestors by viewing them as "poor benighted savages worshiping idols", either. The Jewish god has a bizarre hatred of LGBT people which disgusts me, as well as Yahweh's neediness and jealousy. You can have fun with that, though. Not for me.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

And where did you learn of these creatures? I suggest that you read the Bible for yourself.

It is not up to you to "suggest" what people should read. That borders on proselytizing.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You forget a tornado killed the children of Job.

And you forget God permitted Satan to send that tornado. "I am the all-loving God. Hey, kids, DIE, you little toadsl...hee,hee!"

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

But at least you will read it?

Can't speak for @Saint Frankenstein, but I've read it -- all the way from beginning to end 3 full times. It doesn't get any better with repeated readings, trust me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You know nothing about my past. You don't even know how old I am. I love science shows and frankly the one thing all secular science shows have in common is that the presentation is all about THEM.

I know enough. You cannot claim to love science when you deny a huge chunk of it. And no, if anything this seems to be all about you and your beliefs. The fact that you are an ape, as we all are, does not refute Christianity, it only refutes flawed versions of it. You seem to take the fact that you are an ape as a personal insult when it is no more of an insult than someone observing that the sun is shining.

GOD doesn't exist.

That does not appear to be one of his presuppositions at all. Once again evolution is a fact whether God exists or doesn't exist. Do you see why your claim only shows that you appear to be the one with presuppositions?

 

[Subduction Zone]

ANYONE who regarding himself/herself a believer in GOD MUST believe that GOD created life. Evolution is not the same as adaptation.

Why? Who are you to tell God how he had to create everything. This sounds incredibly arrogant on your part. I will only say that if God cannot lie, and the Bible tells you that, then Genesis cannot be interpreted literally.

You asked me a question. I gave you an answer.

People who only have regard their own desires are one and the same.

Oh my. You think that atheists only have regard for their desires? Where did you get that from? I need to remind you of the Ninth Commandment.

The Bible predictions came true and are presently coming true.

A lot of them failed too. If a person is honest and has studied the Bible at all they will admit this.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There are many people who disregard the Bible and Jesus Christ. Does that make them correct?

They would not be correct if they just "disregarded the Bible". If they point out that certain claims in the Bible are false, yes they would be correct.

It addressed what you asked of me.

They are birds of a feather. Liberals are liberal because they feel that they know what is better for them and are worldly. Atheists are atheists because they are worldly and wish to do whatever they enjoy.

No, most liberals are liberal because they believe that it leads to a better world for everyone. The same actually also applies to most conservatives. Well not so much since Trump came along. He has poisoned the minds of quite a few.

I don't listen to "people". I listen to Jesus and what HE revealed.

Did he though? How would you know that? How would you confirm that/ This looks like a mere belief.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You know nothing about my past. You don't even know how old I am. I love science shows and frankly the one thing all secular science shows have in common is that the presentation is all about THEM.

What does that even mean?

GOD doesn't exist.

No such presupposition was made.

 

[SkepticThinker]

There are many people who disregard the Bible and Jesus Christ. Does that make them correct?

Doesn't address the point. You're confusing "atheist" with "evolutionist."

It addressed what you asked of me.

They are birds of a feather. Liberals are liberal because they feel that they know what is better for them and are worldly. Atheists are atheists because they are worldly and wish to do whatever they enjoy.

Except that they're not.

I'm an atheist because I lack belief in god(s). That's it. And that is all that is required to be an atheist.

I don't listen to "people". I listen to Jesus and what HE revealed.

Same thing. Please address the point.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

ANYONE who regarding himself/herself a believer in GOD MUST believe that GOD created life.

And now you presume (and it is presumption indeed!) to tell people how they MUST believe? And (but of course) it just has to be what you believe, complete with total ignorance of the science that reveals much of your beliefs to be false.

 

[SkepticThinker]

ANYONE who regarding himself/herself a believer in GOD MUST believe that GOD created life. Evolution is not the same as adaptation.

I know a lot of theists who believe that God is intelligent enough to have designed evolution.

This whole "evolution isn't the same as adaptation" is an old creationist canard, long ago debunked. Did you just scan through Answers in Genesis to crib their arguments before you got here? Do you imagine we haven't seen these arguments made here before?

You asked me a question. I gave you an answer.

You gave me an answer to a question I didn't ask and in doing so, you sidestepped the point.
Try answering the question being asked of you next time.

People who only have regard their own desires are one and the same.

And you imagine that is liberals and atheists? Again, they're not the same thing. There are plenty of conservative atheists out there as well.

Personally, as a humanist, I care for all human beings on the planet.

The Bible predictions came true and are presently coming true.

Nonsense. We're still waiting for these "end times" we've been hearing about forever. Still nothing.