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A Win for BLM in Germany

Discussion in 'Human Affairs, Political Movements and Charities' started by Heyo, Sep 16, 2020.

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  1. Heyo

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    It's a small victory and it's not directly related to BLM but it is a silver lining.
    In North-Rhine Westphalia 29 police officers were suspended for posting in chat-groups where also racist and neo-nazi stuff was posted. While in other cases seemingly no progress can be made, in this case the reaction was swift and decisive. At least 14 of the officers will face charges.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...10d044-f80a-11ea-85f7-5941188a98cd_story.html
     
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    Ah, WaPo, where democracy dies behind paywalls. But that is good news.
     
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    Good for you. I didn't want to bother an international audience with a German source. (But to those who understand German, here is the news from the horses mouth (press conference, interior minister Reul talking:
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    Wait a minute: posting in chat-groups where also racist and neo-nazi stuff was posted.

    That doesn't even say that they are neo-nazi's themselves. And certainly terms like 'racist' are subjective. And did any of this affect their job performance? Is the so-called politically correct now censoring thinking they don't like just like the Nazis did in their heyday?
     
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    So no freedom of speech in Germany? Now who's the Nazi?
     
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    It does say that they knew their colleges were. And in Germany it is a crime to show or post signs of anti-democratic organizations.
     
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    Yes, we do curtail freedom of speech in a very special, well defined manner. Essentially, if you don't like freedom of speech, you're not allowed to use it. We had bad experiences.
     
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    The genocidal antisemites with strong feelings for German supremacy, in case you couldn't tell.
     
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    Nazism is illegal in Germany. America is not the world.
     
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    Germany has long had problems with liberties.
    But on the plus side, this problem takes wind from the
    sails of some here who hold up that snooty Europe as
    so racially progressive compared to Ameristan.
    Knocked them down a peg or two, eh.
     
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    It seems as the decades go on Germany should gradually become a free speech nation like the rest of the first world.
     
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    Americans are so arrogant, judging a country for banning an ideology that almost totally destroyed it and most of Europe. How dare they, these Nazi PC fascist communist socialist blah blah blah.
     
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    Things have gotten better over time. Especially when it comes to censorship of media. (I.e. not hard censorship but regulations on selling and advertising adult media.) We are still a bit stingy when it comes to violence but at least some nipples don't make a movie "R" here.
    The only thing that is really prohibited is speech suitable to undermine democracy. As I said, we had bad experiences with that.
    And that is a law that is widely accepted, even with ardent free speech advocates. And we didn't make that law ourselves. Guess who we got that from.
    The only ones who complain about not being able to speak free are the ones who'd like to force everybody else to shut up.
     
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    I suppose us humans aren't worthy of free speech. It was a good idea but apparently most folks can't handle it.
     
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    You guys know that Germany's Anti-Nazi Laws were imposed by the Allies after WW2, do you?
     
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