A huge problem with the JW religion:

[Subduction Zone]

One wonders if anyone is going to get around to revealing why this is such a "huge problem" with the JW religion...

the problem is that the JW's use what they call "dissociation" against their own that have seen the light. It amounts to an ordered shunning, usually by everyone. Since the JW's are often a very incestuous group that can mean not only the loss of family, but one's entire support group as well.

if you have ever debated with a JW you will have found that they cannot reason, probably due to this sort of threat. In fact to such a state that they regularly break the Ninth Commandment when speaking of others.

 

[Subduction Zone]

1 Cor. 5:11, 13; Ro. 16:17, 18; 2 Thess. 3:14, 15; 2 John 9-11; NASB.

Yes, one can abuse the Bible to support any belief. Though by trying to do so you take on a huge burden of proof.

One of the many flaws of the Bible is that it does not seem to say too much about people that abuse scripture.

 

[McBell]

the problem is that the JW's use what they call "dissociation" against their own that have seen the light. It amounts to an ordered shunning, usually by everyone. Since the JW's are often a very incestuous group that can mean not only the loss of family, but one's entire support group as well.

if you have ever debated with a JW you will have found that they cannot reason, probably due to this sort of threat. In fact to such a state that they regularly break the Ninth Commandment when speaking of others.

And this is a "huge problem" why?

Don't get me wrong, I can see it can cause problems on an individual basis, but I fail to see how it is the "huge" problem as stated in the title.

There are several religions that disassociate.
Some even older than JW.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And this is a "huge problem" why?

Don't get me wrong, I can see it can cause problems on an individual basis, but I fail to see how it is the "huge" problem as stated in the title.

There are several religions that disassociate.
Some even older than JW.

Because of the harm it does to those people. And there may be such religions. Do they have the amount of control over their membership that the JW's have?

 

[McBell]

Because of the harm it does to those people. And there may be such religions. Do they have the amount of control over their membership that the JW's have?

Other than your dislike of the practice and an individualized argument, you have not presented anything that I would say makes their disassociation a "huge" problem.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Other than your dislike of the practice and an individualized argument, you have not presented anything that I would say makes their disassociation a "huge" problem.

Watch the video in the OP.

 

[McBell]

Watch the video in the OP.

Ouch.

I did.

 

[kjw47]

LOL that's your rationalization? "Hey, it's better than stoning!"

What a pathetically low bar for a supposedly morally perfect God.

Of course we have a choice. The choice is to not accept your ridiculous false dichotomy and not ruin people's lives for thought crimes.

LOL that's your rationalization? "Hey, it's better than stoning!"

What a pathetically low bar for a supposedly morally perfect God.

Of course we have a choice. The choice is to not accept your ridiculous false dichotomy and not ruin people's lives for thought crimes.

In the end--Gods way is the only way that counts--every other way-loses.
Yes, God accepts 0 sin. One cannot be moral if they accept the opposite.

 

[kjw47]

What are you talking about? Bringing up a lesser evil from your religion does not excuse a smaller evil. Why do you believe in an evil God anyway?

God isn't evil. Mortals lost in darkness are.

 

[kjw47]

So sad. Glad he had you and your family to show him love and support.

His family is not handing out eternal life, God is--We all choose our path.99% have chosen in error, by their false reasonings.

 

[Left Coast]

In the end--Gods way is the only way that counts--every other way-loses.
Yes, God accepts 0 sin. One cannot be moral if they accept the opposite.

When you find some decent evidence that your god even exists, let alone that he defines what is and isn't moral, let me know. For now, humans define morality, and all the evidence indicates we have always done so. So yes, we can be moral without your god and his alleged commands.

 

[Left Coast]

His family is not handing out eternal life, God is--We all choose our path.99% have chosen in error, by their false reasonings.

You havent demonstrated that anyone's reasoning is false, you're simply declaring it, like you're declaring that your god exists, defines morality, and "hands out eternal life." Come back with some evidence.

 

[metis]

We all choose our path.99% have chosen in error, by their false reasonings.

But you, of course, is of that 1%, right?

Sorry, but the impression I'm getting when people make such claims is that the "deity" they are truly worshiping is themselves.

 

[Notanumber]

I have worked for JWs here in the UK but I hadn’t realised that they could be so spiteful.

They occasionally patrol the area looking for new recruits but I am not interested.

They seem to accept that but maybe it is different in the US.

Just imagine what it must be like for ex-Muslims.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God isn't evil. Mortals lost in darkness are.

then your version if God does not exist. The God of the Bible is clearly immoral. Bible literalism is self refuting.

 

[kjw47]

You havent demonstrated that anyone's reasoning is false, you're simply declaring it, like you're declaring that your god exists, defines morality, and "hands out eternal life." Come back with some evidence.

Most with the ability to reason correctly, knows 100% a big bang to create all of creation = impossible--intelligent design created all things.

 

[kjw47]

But you, of course, is of that 1%, right?

Sorry, but the impression I'm getting when people make such claims is that the "deity" they are truly worshiping is themselves.

Its pretty much in black and white who is who to Gods view.

 

[kjw47]

then your version if God does not exist. The God of the Bible is clearly immoral. Bible literalism is self refuting.

God isn't immoral-Mortals forced this system to be for now. He told everyone--he will not accept sin. They do not listen.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Most with the ability to reason correctly, knows 100% a big bang to create all of creation = impossible--intelligent design created all things.

Really? Then why doesn't one of them step up and win a Nobel Prize?

Seriously there is no evidence for intelligent design at all. There are only failed arguments for the concept.

 

[Left Coast]

Most with the ability to reason correctly, knows 100% a big bang to create all of creation = impossible--intelligent design created all things.

I would love to see the actual "reason" written out that led you to those two conclusions. You're begging the question by calling it "creation" in the first place, when you haven't demonstrated that it was created at all.

How much formal science education do you have?

PS - Your religion in your profile has a typo.