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A "historic victory for white life"

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Jayhawker Soule, Jun 26, 2022.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    A pride pecking order, eh.
     
  2. Guitar's Cry

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    How do you mean? I was focusing on the stigma associated with "white."
     
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    Right.
    Some races can have pride.
    One cannot.

    (I'm OK without it.)
     
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    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    Nope.

    Using the identity of "white" for pride instead of "American" or whatever ethnicity you identify with is problematic because the very concept of "white" in America implies horrific histories of oppression and brutality. "Black" Americans feeling pride are appropriating the term to counteract that oppression and in many cases, they can't identify their African roots due to being forced to procreate to use their offspring as slaves, and in having their families and cultures removed from them.
     
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    Yup. "White" is an odd one to be proud of. We've never been white before. It's cultural erasure. It lumps us all together even though our individual histories begin at various times across the past few hundred years. And outside of broad generalizations it's mostly white supremacists with heavily distorted views of society and history using it and saying they're proud of it.
     
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    I don't get why those such as us (those of Celtic heritage) would identify as white in America, in regards to the "predominate white history and culture," because the Irish and Scots where brought here as slaves along with Africans, it's strongly tied to the Anglo-Saxon's history here (you can even find them used interchangeably at times), and it's even spilled over into religious prejudice against Catholicism (along with Hispanic, Spanish, and others who are predominately Catholic).
     
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    Still a pecking order.
     
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    As is being proud of being queer, fan of a club or citizen of a country (except for immigrants).
    I can't be proud of being German, I was born here, I did nothing to be proud of.
     
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    I'm a mongrel anyway.
    No real identity with the old country(s).
    Scotland is a joke.
    (Sorry 'bout that, Scots.)
     
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    As a Whovian, you, sir, have struck a nerve!
    :p
     
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    You learned that ridiculous language.
     
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    But they gave us pancakes! And make America not alone with deep frying everything! And they'll kick a terrorist in the balls so hard they'll brake their ankle! And, really, they do make British history far more entertaining.
     
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    But it's not my personal history.
    My ancestors are just stories.
     
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    You didn't start here a couple hundred years ago (except for maybe some native I've not heard you mention). It's not personal history, but it's where we come from. It's the wars and alliances, famines and feasts, and a world of other miseries and euphorias that got us here. And not just geographically, but collectively and individually how we perceive and think about the world.
     
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    All irrelevant to me.
     
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    I always figure it was just an excuse to wear a skirt.
     
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    And another, even more ridiculous, language where nothing is pronounced as it is spelled.
     
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    A keen mind you have.
     
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