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80's Nostalgia.

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
"On the afternoon of December 10, 1981, units of the Salvadoran army's Atlacatl Battalion, which was created in 1980 at the U.S. Army's School of the Americas, arrived at the remote village of El Mozote after a clash with guerrillas in the vicinity. The Atlacatl was a "Rapid Deployment Infantry Battalion" specially trained for counter-insurgency warfare. It was the first unit of its kind in the Salvadoran armed forces and was trained by United States military advisors. Its mission, Operación Rescate ("Operation Rescue"), was to eliminate the rebel presence in a small region of northern Morazán where the FMLN had two camps and a training center.
Early the next morning, the soldiers reassembled the entire village in the square. They separated the men from the women and children and locked them in separate groups in the church, the convent, and various houses.

During the morning, they proceeded to interrogate, torture, and execute the men in several locations.

Around noon, they began taking the women and older girls in groups, separating them from their children and murdering them with machine guns after raping them.

Girls as young as 10 were raped, and soldiers were reportedly heard bragging how they especially liked the 12-year-old girls. Finally, they killed the children at first by slitting their throats, and later by hanging them from trees; one child killed in this manner was reportedly two years old. After killing the entire population, the soldiers set fire to the buildings.
The soldiers remained in El Mozote that night but, the next day, went to the village of Los Toriles and carried out a further massacre. Men, women, and children were taken from their homes, lined up, robbed, and shot, and their homes then set ablaze."

hyperlink >>> wikipedia - El Mozote massacre
And their are people in this thread that believe the 80's were wonderful
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I read Joan Didion, I know that decade wasn't all "Summer of Love" and that the hippies were icehole.


The "Summer Of Love" was a total media hype and probably affected only a handful of young people. Also, most "hippies" considered bathing optional, so the term "dirty Hippie" was more of a description than denigration. For the biggest part of the 16-21 crowd of the era it was a magical time. The music and the world was changing. Technology was entering puberty and we were young, healthy, and exuberant. Very few of us ever fell under the heading of hippie, but most of us could be called experimenting with enthusiasm. The old ways were dying and the new way was learning how to walk. There was magic in the air at every turn. This world came of age in the mid-seventies and we found ourselves be forced to grow with the times. However, on warm summer nights I can still catch a whiff of of my youth and hear the driving chords of "Purple Haze" somewhere in the dark.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
The "Summer Of Love" was a total media hype and probably affected only a handful of young people. Also, most "hippies" considered bathing optional, so the term "dirty Hippie" was more of a description than denigration. For the biggest part of the 16-21 crowd of the era it was a magical time. The music and the world was changing. Technology was entering puberty and we were young, healthy, and exuberant. Very few of us ever fell under the heading of hippie, but most of us could be called experimenting with enthusiasm. The old ways were dying and the new way was learning how to walk. There was magic in the air at every turn. This world came of age in the mid-seventies and we found ourselves be forced to grow with the times. However, on warm summer nights I can still catch a whiff of of my youth and hear the driving chords of "Purple Haze" somewhere in the dark.
You people made my life hell.

Signed,
Generation X

P.s. Never trust a hippy - The Sex Pistols
P.s.s. We will have our revenge. Say "hello" to the Millennials!
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Think Trump is bad? Reagan was Worse...far worse.

Sure what Trump is doing in terms of his asylum seeker/refugee crisis that is happening, sure Trump is a complete imbecile and doesn't know how to operate a simple device like an umbrella, sure he is corrupt and probably violating the emoluments clause left and right just like most of our politicians are. But once upon time in a time long, long ago in a terrible time we called the '80's instead of a clown in the White House we had the actual Devil himself occupied the Oval Office and the things he did have repercussions that effect us to this day.

During his reign of terror the lunatic were released from the asylum...literally released from the asylum and shove out on the street. The CIA was aiding and abetting Nicaraguan drug dealing "Freedom Fighters" in supplying our ghettos with the best crack cocaine money could buy, Charlie Wilson was starting his war by supplying Osama the Bomba with hand-held rocket launchers, the national dept tripled and so did most peoples, Barry Seal of Little Rock, Arkansas was flying his plane arms out and drugs in and Gov. Bill Clinton didn't see a thing (*snort*snort*), it was Hands Across America and hands up or I will shoot, the President would joke about the spectre of Nuclear holocaust that hanged low over everyone and everyone was hoping that Jesus would just come back and get the whole thing over with before they blew up the planet, the Middle Class was falling and to this day it can't get up because where is the beef? Did I mention that they sold weapons to Iran in order to buy weapons for Contras in order for them to sell us cheap cocaine? There were astrologers in the White House and cheap hookers in the sacred Halls of Justice, congressmen were molesting underage congressional pages, you couldn't call it a dumpster fire because the fire that lit up America was dying and all we had to entertain us was Vietnam War revenge fantasies (go get 'em Rambo!) and the opiated pablum of John Hughes and Steven Spielberg to put us to sleep. And then there was the AIDs crisis but nobody was really looking or paying attention because of all these goddamn bills that keep piling up because daddy lost his job because the factory move over seas because the union couldn't protect him anymore because what happen to my ****ing union?! You were supposed to protect us! Kids weren't stuck in front of a screen playing video games all day long, they were playing outside because their parent were at work and forgot to give them the key so they were locked out of the house and little Jimmy was lucky if he came home to two daddies, or two mommies or both a mommy and a daddy because more often than not daddy was living in a downtown fleabag paying alimony and child support because everybody getting divorce was a thing that promoted family values, pretend welfare queen where driving Cadillac through the pretend streets of pretend Baltimore even though no one ever bother to catch them on film we just believed because the President said so and it wasn't racist no not really he was just being funny. And what are those Commie Russkies up to? Farms were being foreclosed! And what is with all these taxes? He said he was going to lower taxes? Oh "trickle-down" you say? Ok, we'll wait our turn. What is with all these crazy homeless people on the street and where is the beef? I have fallen and I can't get up.

And there was much much more happening than that people. All the bad stuff you are experiencing today? All have it's roots in the 80's
Profoundly irrelevant. Nonsensical as well.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The "Summer Of Love" was a total media hype and probably affected only a handful of young people. Also, most "hippies" considered bathing optional, so the term "dirty Hippie" was more of a description than denigration. For the biggest part of the 16-21 crowd of the era it was a magical time. The music and the world was changing. Technology was entering puberty and we were young, healthy, and exuberant. Very few of us ever fell under the heading of hippie, but most of us could be called experimenting with enthusiasm. The old ways were dying and the new way was learning how to walk. There was magic in the air at every turn. This world came of age in the mid-seventies and we found ourselves be forced to grow with the times. However, on warm summer nights I can still catch a whiff of of my youth and hear the driving chords of "Purple Haze" somewhere in the dark.
1967 was the summer of love. Purple Haze, ech. White Room !! Yes, I would go back happily. No responsibility, surfing, and oh my, the drive in movie saturday night !!
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
1967 was the summer of love. Purple Haze, ech. White Room !! Yes, I would go back happily. No responsibility, surfing, and oh my, the drive in movie saturday night !!


I was seventeen then. The movement really didn't catch on here in the south until the summer of 68 (remember there was no social media then).
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
I was seventeen then. The movement really didn't catch on here in the south until the summer of 68 (remember there was no social media then).
Dude, you are old ! I was 18 in 67. I grew up in SoCal. In most ways, including cruisin' American Graffiti takes me back to those days. This was long before Ca. became the cesspool it is now. Except as a young cop doing combat at an antiwar rally in 72, I had never seen a real hippy.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
And their are people in this thread that believe the 80's were wonderful
The first 5 years were for me. Beautiful wife, great job, great house, bought my first ( and only) new Mercedes, two great kids, all the hard work paid off.

Then my 35 year old wife died of cancer, and it all went down hill.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
People who have nostalgia for the 1980s are usually focused on pop culture, not the bad stuff. It's the same with nostalgia for any time period - we overlook the bad and focus on the things we enjoy. We romanticize it.

I do love '80s pop culture. Much of the music I listen to has its roots in or came to fruition during the '80s (thrash and death metal, hardcore punk, goth, new wave, synthpop, post-punk, neofolk, etc.). Then there's the movies, video games, fashion and so on.
 
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