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Search results for query: "Malachi 1:2"

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  1. W

    Nonsense Scriptures?

    Yes. It means God preferred one over the other for a certain purpose. For example, Jesus said to hate your mother and father... But that's in comparison to God, it just means put God first. God chose Jacob for a job not for salvation. Esau ended up being blessed in different ways.
  2. U

    Nonsense Scriptures?

    Any thoughts about Romans 9:13; Malachi 1:2-3; Hebrews 12:16 B
  3. Miken

    Did Christianity Start with Jesus?

    As I have addressed several times at length, there was an earlier Jesus movement that did not believe in the resurrection. Paul was considered to be a johnny come lately upstart trying to introduce strange new ideas by trying to weasel himself in as an Apostle. It sounds like this movement...
  4. Deeje

    Do you believe in life after Death?

    Oh dear.....I don't know where to start with this......the contradictions come as a result of the foretold apostasy, which Jesus and his apostles warned would take place, "while men were sleeping"...."from among themselves" false teachers would arise to "draw away disciples after...
  5. D

    So Jesus is not God?

    Someone who IS love can of course love or there would be no love.
  6. 74x12

    So Jesus is not God?

    Malachi 1:2 "i have loved you" God has loved Jacob. So God has love also.
  7. Good-Ole-Rebel

    In your understanding, What did Jesus mean by this?

    (Num.23:19)---man---Strongs identification, #376 (Num 5:6)---person---Strongs id, #5315 (Job 32:21)---person---Strongs id, #6440 (Pro. 6:12)---person---Strongs id, #120 (Pro. 28:17)---person---Strongs id, #5315 (Eze. 44:25)---person---Strongs id, #120 Well, yes, self does speak to personality...
  8. sooda

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    Parse it any way you like.. Its a shameful story.
  9. InChrist

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    Did you notice that the article you linked to says..."So, considering the context, God loving Jacob and hating Esau has nothing to do with the human emotions of love and hate." Why did God love Jacob and hate Esau (Malachi 1:3; Romans 9:13)? You misunderstand the verse "As it is written, Jacob...
  10. sooda

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    God hated Esau before the twins were born .. and the mother conspired to disinherit her first born..
  11. Kilk1

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    Oh, I see where you're coming from. Edom (the place) had mountains, but Esau (the person) did not. The Edomites descended from Esau, so Esau (the person) is being spoken of as representative of Edom (the place) in Malachi 1:2-3, quoted in Romans 9:13. The reason all this is significant is...
  12. sooda

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    Not to me.. That's why I doubt all the sayings attributed to God. The Red mountains of Edom
  13. Kilk1

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple" (Luke 14:26, NKJV). Yet obviously, we should love our family. Sometimes in the Bible, we're told to hate in the sense of not giving...
  14. sooda

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    Roman 9:13 Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
  15. Fool

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    i think the idea of karma has an inference in this idea that before anyone is born, they have negative/positive karma they bring with them into the incarnation. couple of inferences to karma and regeneration. John 9 [Full Chapter] [ A Man Born Blind Receives Sight ] Now as Jesus passed by, He...
  16. Kilk1

    Calvinism's strongest Biblical text

    Hello! This is my first thread on the site. Many say that the strongest evidence for Calvinism from the Bible is Romans 8:28 through 9:24. Having studied the passage from multiple sides, I'm not sure Calvinism is actually taught here. While 8:29-30 mentions that there are people God foreknew and...
  17. Axe Elf

    I hate myself

    Now you're just arguing with scripture, not with me. "These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him" --Proverbs 6:16 "yet I loved Jacob, but I have hated Esau" --Malachi 1:2-3 "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." --Romans 9:13 Yes, the Biblical sense of...
  18. Windwalker

    I hate myself

    It is certainly not possible. God is Love. There is no hatred in the nature of God. Light drives out all darkness. Have you ever experienced the Presence of God? So, metaphorically speaking, by way of contrast, "hatred" is meant to convey that the love with which one love's God needs to be that...
  19. Axe Elf

    I hate myself

    It's certainly possible. Why else would He have put me here trying to explain astrophysics to chimps, so to speak? In the Biblical sense of which I speak, though, "hate" just means to love less. Otherwise when Jesus says that you have to hate your own mother and father to follow Him (in Luke...
  20. Sonofason

    Your opinion please about Islam.

    Keep in min Consider this quote again. Proverbs 6:16-19 - "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A...
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