How Much Do You Doubt God's Existence?

Bear Wild said:

Jus to make sure I understand the reply does not include the words from Jesus saying he died everyone.

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I think you didn’t read what I said. Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

there is tis… all nations

Hawkins said:

He should come forward to inform each human individuals about his presence and what His important message is, agree?

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Don't agree..
How do you expect G-d to "come forward"?
What do you mean by that?

Hawkins said:

Has your God provided a valid reason not to come forward to tell everyone His important message which requires human kind to know of?

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Has your govt. "come forward" to let you know what is expected of you?
I think the answer is "yes" .. and G-d has also not left us without guidance.

muhammad_isa said:

Don't agree..
How do you expect G-d to "come forward"?
What do you mean by that?

muhammad_isa said:

Has your govt. "come forward" to let you know what is expected of you?
I think the answer is "yes" .. and G-d has also not left us without guidance.

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It's because He has an crucial message for human kind. The crucial message is concerning our death or life. So you don't think that a God has a message concerning the death or life of human kind should come forward to tell humans?

Your government should tell you if it foresees a disaster coming, no?

Godobeyer said:

I was discuss your idea, God can anything, even had shape human or animal "idols".

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In my particular belief, non-duality (Advaita Hinduism), there is no God, no soul, no creation, no birth, no death, no heaven, no hell, no judgement.
What is perceived is just an illusion and does not last. As Buddha said 'Anatta' (without substance) and 'Anicca' (non-permanent).
Advaita Hinduism is a no-nonsense philosophy.

Hawkins said:

..should come forward..

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..no .. just repeating your mantra does not explain what you mean by it..

..come forward HOW??

muhammad_isa said:

..come forward HOW??

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That requires an existing God, but God is an imagination. So, he comes in imagination and not in truth, as prophets/sons/messengers/manifestations.

Aupmanyav said:

..but God is an imagination..

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Are pleasure & pain just "imagination" ?

muhammad_isa said:

Are pleasure & pain just "imagination" ?

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Yeah, they too. Just a perception.

muhammad_isa said:

G-d does not "hide" ..

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Yet you hide the "o" in the word God.

muhammad_isa said:

G-d makes Himself known to whomsoever He wills.

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Since you are a mortal claiming this, and you offer no evidence that it's true, how would anyone who doesn't "know" a God think you sre teling the truth? Your claim here is something a conman would claim.

muhammad_isa said:

..but as G-d is not a person, it is not as straightforward as you might imagine.

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Apparently you can't explain it either.

muhammad_isa said:

What would it mean to "show up in front of humans"? What would you expect G-d to look like?

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There are movies that offer plausible ways for God to make itself known to morrtals. But here you are claiming that mortals CAN know God. If your means to "know" God doesn't include it showing up in front of you, what form does it take?

Aupmanyav said:

In my particular belief, non-duality (Advaita Hinduism), there is no God, no soul, no creation, no birth, no death, no heaven, no hell, no judgement.
What is perceived is just an illusion and does not last. As Buddha said 'Anatta' (without substance) and 'Anicca' (non-permanent).
Advaita Hinduism is a no-nonsense philosophy.

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Is it fair to say that "anything goes" insofar as your belief?

Kenny said:

I think you didn’t read what I said. Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

there is tis… all nations

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Those were the words spoken by Jesus? Or is that an interpretation after the event?

Kenny said:

I think you didn’t read what I said. Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

there is tis… all nations

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I know that is what you believe and that is wonderful. What I ask is not to apply it to those who are not following your faith. I know you think it and I know I do not expect to change your mind, but I do not want to hear it. I am very familiar what is in the bible and have heard these things all of my life. I have found something far greater for me and don't want to be told again something I do not believe in. Thank you for your respect.

PureX said:

There is plenty of evidence.

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We'd have to have a debate about epistemology first to decide what counts as evidence, especially what counts as scientific evidence. Jurisprudence uses a different definition that is much weaker, testimony counts as evidence in court, not in science.

PureX said:

Atheists just refuse to accept it. Then claim that the lack of it IS evidence that no gods exist.

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Most atheists don't. They say that the lack of evidence is reason to not believe that a god exists - not to believe that no god exists.
It's also the case that with the low standard of evidence that believers use, it isn't possible to differentiate between the many gods, which are proposed by the believers. With the same standard of evidence with which you can claim that Allah exists, someone else can claim that Ahura Mazda exists.

Hawkins said:

Though I can't say that there are wrong questions, there could be better asked questions.

Question 1 is, if God exists then how would you know?
Question 2 is, does this God, if exists, concern me or not? (if a god doesn't concern you then he can be ignored even exists)
Question 3 is, what do you need a god for, at the end? (i.e., if he concerns you)
Question 4 is, if a god is needed then what he should do to fulfill your that "need"?

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Question 0 is. what is this god thingy, how is it defined?

F1fan said:

There are movies that offer plausible ways for God to make itself known to morrtals..

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That maybe so, but you need to explain it yourself, what is meant by "make itself known"..

YoursTrue said:

Is it fair to say that "anything goes" insofar as your belief?

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Absolutely not. I live in a society, in a country. I must follow the rules of the society and that of the government. That is my duty ('dharma').

Hawkins said:

Question 1 is, if God exists then how would you know?

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We would know by what happens in the world he created. Murder, rapes, robberies, wars, diseases, poverty and natural disasters like earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, famines, tsunamis, tornadoes, typhoons, fires, etc.

Heyo said:

We'd have to have a debate about epistemology first to decide what counts as evidence, especially what counts as scientific evidence.

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Science has nothing to do with it. And evidence is any information that is relevant to the question being asked. This requires no "epistemology". Just a little honesty and common sense.

Heyo said:

Jurisprudence uses a different definition that is much weaker, testimony counts as evidence in court, not in science.

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Science has nothing to do with it. Neither does jurisprudence. All that is required is honesty and some common sense (a reasonable degree of applied logic).

Heyo said:

Most atheists don't. They say that the lack of evidence is reason to not believe that a god exists - not to believe that no god exists.

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Sure, right after they dismiss all the evidence that doesn't support their bias and then claim that the lack of evidence has become evidence in support of their bias. All the while proclaiming how unbiased and supremely logical they are compared to anyone that disagrees with them.

Heyo said:

It's also the case that with the low standard of evidence that believers use, it isn't possible to differentiate between the many gods, which are proposed by the believers.

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Except that you don't get to set the standard for what is evidence, nor what anyone else chooses to do with it.

Heyo said:

With the same standard of evidence with which you can claim that Allah exists, someone else can claim that Ahura Mazda exists.

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And they are both be right. Because all they are proclaiming is how they are choosing to imagine God's existence, and what they are choosing to call it. Which ultimately has no bearing on the actual nature or existence of God. And so therefor provides no support for your contention that gods don't exist.

Aupmanyav said:

We would know by what happens in the world he created. Murder, rapes, robberies, wars, diseases, poverty and natural disasters like earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, famines, tsunamis, tornadoes, typhoons, fires, etc.

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Illogical .. why associate what humans might be responsible for, with a Creator of the universe?

Are you saying that it is "a mistake" to give responsibility to others?

Nakosis said:

Is there any room in your belief to doubt God exists?

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Short answer: Not really. Because I sincerely doubt I can be made to care. I am very atheistic, very apatheistic, very igtheistic.

I figure that, were I somewhat representative of most other people in matters of god-beliefs, the matter would never have achieved much social or political significance. I can't be bothered to even pretend that it is a big deal.

Or do you believe in God with 100% certainty?

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Heck, no. I could not do that to save my life. Or even my bottle cap collection.

If you're agnostic does that mean you believe there is a 50% chance God exists and a 50% chance he doesn't?

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No, not me. I am technically agnostic, but that does not really factor into my actual disbelief. I'm atheist all the way.

If you don't believe in God or gods are you 100% certain there is no God(s)? 90%, 70%?

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If you really need a percentage, then 100% is the only number that makes any real sense here to describe my stance.

There are gods and god-like entities that I fully accept to exist or to have existed. I even accept that this is a significant matter for some or many people.

But I am not one of those people and could never be moved to care.

If you believe in more than one God are there some gods you don't believe in? How certain that these gods you don't believe in don't exist?

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I guess that does not apply to me. There are many gods that I have sympathy towards. None that I believe to exist or wish did exist.

What do you base this percentage of non-belief on?

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Decades of often unwilling consideration of how I feel about all this god-belief that apparently motivates so many people and so strongly.

Not my thing. At all.