Heyo
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So, "that disciple whom Jesus loved" was his son?
Just kidding, I was just explaining how a Bible passage could be used as evidence for Jesus' homosexuality. There are more creative mental gymnastics used by Christian.
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How Much Do You Doubt God's Existence?
- Thread starter Nakosis
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Just kidding, I was just explaining how a Bible passage could be used as evidence for Jesus' homosexuality. There are more creative mental gymnastics used by Christian.
Yes, people can and do.
But since he observed the law, we can know he wasn’t involved in that fashion.
chinu
chinu
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I never said not implied "adulterer", but I do have to ask why you supposedly know he wasn't gay? Most men back then got married in their mid-teens, and yet Jesus seemingly never does.
I definitely agree with the latter, but can't gay people also "love God and love your neighbor"?
I know I'm being a pain, but there's a reason for this as it's all too easy to slip into turning beliefs into facts.
Bear Wild
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So you are not familiar with Egyptian or Greek mythology? Here is a quick introduction for you.
Miraculous births - Wikipedia
So are you claiming that the god before Jesus was also male?
Really? So you happened to never hear that many common religions claim this, and came up with creation all by yourself?
Explain how you came up with thinking the universe must have been created.
The energy is more likely to have always existed. Unless you can explain how energy could be created out of nothing, and how it was doen, and who or what did it. I want to hear your facts.
That things exist does not mean they were created. Is this how you think? When a tree grows its material isn't being created from nothing, it grows as existing material adds to the collection of cells that make up the tree.
Why assume a God exists at all? What evidence exists that allows a ration mind to conclude at least one exists? Notice believers struggle to answer this question, maybe you have answers.
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The Muslim loses the debate. It's the same assumptions that are treated as facts. Essentially the Muslim is so small that he has to assume a God exists for things to be the way they are.
But I noticed you avoided answering my questions. Is it because you would have to consider that your beliefs are ideas you adopted from others, and perhaps aren't sure why you did that?
chinu
chinu
Universe is created by God. God can also be named as energy.
If the question is: explain how energy could be created out of nothing ?
Then my answer is as follows:
Like; we human sleep and awake.
Similarly; this energy also sleep and awake.
Like; we human do our works during awake and then sleep.
Similarly; this energy created the whole universe during awake and then sleep.
Sleeping energy = Sleeping God / Nothing.
Awake energy = God.
Enjoy the facts !
Sorry, Metis, I wasn’t implying that you did. My point is that he was tempted in all points but did not sin. He may have been tempted but did not yield in both areas. IMV
Obviously… anyone can. But we are transformed - we all need transformation. Not equating - murderers, self-righteous, prideful, just anyone can decide to love God and their neighbor.
the problem is when we add to what isn’t there. We can take our thoughts and strain it through the strainer of God’s words and throw out what doesn’t line up. In this case, we can throw out gay thoughts or adultery thoughts.
The universe is energy. So if energy is God, then how does God (which is energy) get created? What exists that isn't energy/God that acts to create it?
This is incoherent. It's not a very good analogy. Don't you have facts that back up what you claim?
This is also an ineffective analogy.
You offered no facts except that you know we humans sleep and can be awake.
You don't seem to have thought any of this through. Where did you hear about the idea of God in the first place?
Really?
I am done. Good luck find the truth
That's the Luke version. In Matthew, Mary is just "found to be pregnant" with no mention of her consenting to it.
(And the virgin birth isn't even mentioned in Mark or John)
I hadn't thought of Jesus as being ace or aro before, but now that you bring it up, it certainly fits the narrative.
It sure aligns with how he stayed an unmarried 30-something in an era when marriage would have been a social expectation.
Presumably, Jesus loved all of his disciples - and the world in general - but describing one specific disciple as "the disciple who Jesus loved" implies that he loved that disciple in a different way from all the others.
Really. And you offer no defense.
This is why atheists gain confidence in their assessments. I would think those with absolute truth would mop up the floors with non-believers.
Why defense، is this competition?
Maybe language level failure me.
Atheist believe is their own responsiblity, which i consider blind mind, it's mentioned in Qur'an.This status of mind.Which can't see the reality.
because obviously life is planned.
thing can't coming from nothing.
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He didn’t come for social expectation - He came to redeem mankind.
And? Jacob love Joseph more than his other brothers.
Sure. And you described him not "coveting" anyone, which would consistent with him being aromantic.