mmmmm.... nope. that isn't what I said
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What is your definition of religion?
- Thread starter VoidCat
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Having implied i am a liar 3 times and you don't get it ... Sheesh
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't think you are a liar. I think you do life differently in some cases than some other humans. And I have a problem considering those standard knowledge. But that is just me and my understanding of knowledge.
What i said was
Was it? From your posts it seems not, and i truly feel sorry for people unwilling to expand their mind.
You replied
That cuts both ways. I can only assume you meant what you said
If you read that... you read into it. In no way, shape or form have I intimated or even had a shadow of a thought that you were lying or were a liar.
I can say that before God. (my God, of course - whether real or just of my making)
I rally think this part of our conversation is not beneficial as the beginning of the statement goes before that quoted one.
Let's just leave it at "we both agree that seeking knowledge is a good thing". Is that ok?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
What i said was
Was it? From your posts it seems not, and i truly feel sorry for people unwilling to expand their mind.
You replied
I can only assume you meant what you said
Yeah, that is a case of different understandings. I get you both and neither of you are right nor wrong as such. You just understand differently.
Whatever i said i though you contradicted said it was faith. No imagination required.
That isn't intimated in any way, shape or form. It is a difference of perspectives and definitions. We may not agree with it but you didn't say I lied and I didn't say you lied.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, yes. Not just standard religious faith. You do your morality and ethics without religion, but as far as I can tell, you haven't solved this:
https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/whatisscience_12
That site was actually quite good. I'm saving it.
Religion to me is that which connects man to God. Throughout the ages Teachers such as Jesus, Moses, Krishna and Muhammad have connected us with this mystical Being we call God. These Educators exhibited superhuman intelligence and wisdom which has inspired billions of people and influenced the course of human history.
They never divulged the mystery which is God but stand out as unique in human history. People live by Their laws but don’t really understand the mystical influence These Beings have over all of humanity.
All that many admit is that there is an unknown power behind Them but nobody knows what it is.
They never divulged the mystery which is God but stand out as unique in human history. People live by Their laws but don’t really understand the mystical influence These Beings have over all of humanity.
All that many admit is that there is an unknown power behind Them but nobody knows what it is.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Krishna is a mythological figure for me. The scholarly consensus is that BhagawadGit was witten aaround 300 BCE. It uses modern Sanskrit (which was modified by Panini). 300 BCE, around the time of Alexander's invasion is not a dark period of history of India. There was no Krishna ruling Gujarat at that time. Alexander and his army returned to Babylon through Mekran. Another part of the army went by sea under Nearchus. The Greek Historians do not mention Krishna. We do not know who wrote it and who all interpolated their verses into it before it was canonized. It is amusing that Bahais include Krishna or Buddha as manifestations of their Allah.
Nearchus
Religion to me is understanding of the working of the universe and human life without resorting to imaginary things. That takes away God, soul, heaven, hell, judgment, any kind of deliverance or resurrection. The most important part of religion is to follow one's 'dharma' (fulfilling one's duties and engaging in righteous action). None of this requires a belief in God and a compulsion to pray to any God.
Religion to me is understanding of the working of the universe and human life without resorting to imaginary things. That takes away God, soul, heaven, hell, judgment, any kind of deliverance or resurrection. The most important part of religion is to follow one's 'dharma' (fulfilling one's duties and engaging in righteous action). None of this requires a belief in God and a compulsion to pray to any God.
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sealchan
Well-Known Member
Joseph Campbell came up with a descriptive definition of a mythic system which I think would be inclusive of religion...here is a nice looking pdf that someone put together which describes what Campbell called the four functions of myth (top Google result in my search):
https://online.valenciacollege.edu/files/21649244/download?download_frd=1#:~:text=These are:,social order and morality, and
Namely...
The mystical which addresses your direct experience of the mystery and wonder of existence
The cosmological which addresses the character of that physical creation into which we are born and how it has unfolded over the course of time
The sociological which explains what the laws of society are and why
The pedagogical which teaches the individual how to relate to and thrive in that this existence on a personal level
A religion should provide effective answers to all of these needs.
Colt
Well-Known Member
"True religion is to know God as your Father and man as your brother. " UB 1955
That's one version relevant to you, through the ages there have been many "true" religions with different ideas
Colt
Well-Known Member
Something is true.
Not necessarily if you consider the 3rd definition which it seems many religious folk use to claim "truth"
I.e. that which you believe to be true.
It could be total bs, it often is, but if you believe it then you can claim "truth"
Colt
Well-Known Member
I'm saying that something is true regardless of what one might believed. Not everything believed is true.
True ;-)