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Locked or Open

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Lockdown vs open is a false duality. CA has multiple states of partial lockdown from yellow (mostly open), orange, red and purple. Lockdown is even more locked than purple.

And all those colors are automatic based on several factors based on measurement.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
you in a state that is or has been more locked down or open? Any thoughts on the view presented in the following article?
I don't live in US, so I can't speak for US, but as for Holland I have proof that Dutch death numbers have been fabricated and are totally unreliable

So, IMO, no honest Dutch scientist could in good conscience make claims on corona deaths at this time. If they do make claims they have a hidden agenda
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
I'd be surprised if the UK government could locate its own shoelaces right now, let alone its Corona policies.
I'd be surprised if Dutch politicians could look into the mirror in good conscience (in the context of corona)

Note: I don't believe there are humans without conscience
 
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Heyo

Veteran Member
Canada too, if I have to be honest! We are screwing it up so badly, it makes me ashamed...
Not only Canada. Germany has gone from poster child to bad. We are failing hard at vaccination.
We also fail at corona policies. People don't follow regulations any more, sometime because they didn't realize that the rules had changed again, sometimes because they just loath them.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I'd be surprised if the UK government could locate its own shoelaces right now, let alone its Corona policies.
And if it's not the state that somehow utterly failed to seal off an island, it's the people like they are here (specifically in California where the state at least tried) who behaves selfishly destructive and selfishly self destructive all in the name of "individual liberties.":rolleyes:
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Are you in a state that is or has been more locked down or open? Any thoughts on the view presented in the following article?


Free States Faring Far Better Than Lockdown States in One Huge Way, New Data Show | Brad Polumbo
Locked down, but coming out of it, step by cautious step. We in the UK are doing better now than many of those countries that have not - largely because of (uncharacteristically) good planning on vaccine supply and, very importantly I think, a high level of trust in the vaccines, due to the faith the British have in the National Health Service.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Are you in a state that is or has been more locked down or open? Any thoughts on the view presented in the following article?


Free States Faring Far Better Than Lockdown States in One Huge Way, New Data Show | Brad Polumbo
I am from Sweden and Switzerland. The first very open, the second fairly open. Doing as good, at least, as other countries that imprisoned their citizens.

For instance, in Switzerland we never shutdown ski resorts (I just spent a few weeks vacations there), but that does not seem to have create the apocalypse that so-called experts prophesied.

Ciao

- viole
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Are you in a state that is or has been more locked down or open? Any thoughts on the view presented in the following article?


Free States Faring Far Better Than Lockdown States in One Huge Way, New Data Show | Brad Polumbo
Here in Michigan we have been more closed than most other states, and that has been a good thing overall. Problem is that now the UK variance of covid is running rampant as it is much more contagious and somewhat more deadly than the original strain that came here from Italy. Our Canadian neighbor, Ontario, is running across the same thing, and they now are in an in-place lockdown for at least April.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't live in US, so I can't speak for US, but as for Holland I have proof that Dutch death numbers have been fabricated and are totally unreliable

So, IMO, no honest Dutch scientist could in good conscience make claims on corona deaths at this time. If they do make claims they have a hidden agenda
For what it's worth, Amsterdam is one of my favorite places on Earth.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Lockdown vs open is a false duality. CA has multiple states of partial lockdown from yellow (mostly open), orange, red and purple. Lockdown is even more locked than purple.

And all those colors are automatic based on several factors based on measurement.
I thought you guys only had "pink".
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
I thought you guys only had "pink".
Nope. They have the colours of the rainbow:
California_Flag_-_4_-_Rainbow_grande_f3ae1a33-d32d-42f0-91b7-b928e2307a00_1200x721.jpg
 
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