Unveiled Artist
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Well. I don't want naked bodies walking around.
Haha. I hope so too. You get what I mean, right?
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Well. I don't want naked bodies walking around.
It's a bit weird to assume that people would stay sexually abstinent for their entire pre-marriage lives, I agree, but I don't think that was widely practiced among the everyday folks. Even the Old Testament does not seem to particularly care about pre-marital sex, being largely concerned with issues of parenthood and household maintenance - as one would expect from a religious document originating in a tribal culture whose livelihood was based on subsistence agriculture and animal husbandry.Back when we lived in hogans, caves, etc., one usually got married in their early to mid-teen years. Now, in the USA, the average age of first marriage is in the latter 20's. Thus, telling the average couple that they have to suppress the sex drive for that long ain't working out too well, especially since the sex drive is at its highest in the late teens.
Gotta go.
Dangerous ground...
The idea that women are a temptation to men that must be controlled by hiding women and shaming the public display of their sexuality and sensuality is a common trope in many religions, but it's rarely stated as a weakness of men that women don't share textualy. It tends to be more cultural, but defended, carried and transmitted by religious authorities. In other words, you could have those religions without those implication, but the clerics and theologians of those religions have chosen otherwise.
Yes... I do understand.Haha. I hope so too. You get what I mean, right?
Not being an authority on women, period, let alone Christian women, I cannot speak to how strongly they are tempted sexually, or how well they stifle that desire compared to men.
All I will say is that I have noticed over the years that Christians, both men and women, suffer from the enforced sexual ignorance they're usually being reared in, to a significant degree, as they tend to make really poor decisions regarding their sexual pairings when they become adults. They marry way too soon, and very often for all the wrong reasons, and then end up suffering the consequences. And if that isn't bad enough, in many instances, they struggle to maintain the failed union for far too long; increasing the damage.
Exactly, as there's a differentiation made between pre-marital sex versus adultery.Even the Old Testament does not seem to particularly care about pre-marital sex
I have never seen any evidence of it being anywhere near that late. Even here in the States when I first started teaching [1967], the average age of first marriage was 23 for males and 21 for females.From what I gather, it was pretty common for people in many agricultural societies, including pre-industrial Europe, to marry in their late 20s
Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?
Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?
I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.
Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?
I really think it must be a terrible imposition for men to get a raging ________ every time they see a woman in decent clothing... a glimpse of ankle and there is no controlling some men.
The rules in the Bible are the same for men and women, so both are required to have self control. Is it easier for one or the other? I guess that must depend on the person.
That is why I am prescribing a full burka for you. You have caused more than your fair share of such incidentsYou are going to get a bucket load of indignant men when you ask questions like that.
I left church just before the age of "you should dress 'properly'" was fired at me, the properly meaning so as not to inflame men. So it never really effected me.
But my 2cents
I really think it must be a terrible imposition for men to get a raging ________ every time they see a woman in decent clothing... a glimpse of ankle and there is no controlling some men.
That is why I am prescribing a full burka for you. You have caused more than your fair share of such incidents
<sigh> I miss being that young at times.
Well at least you know that you got their attention.As i said, a terrible imposition when men stand out in the crowd just because there is a woman present
Well at least you know that you got their attention.
Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?
I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.
Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?
Well. I don't want naked bodies walking around.
Well. I don't want naked bodies walking around.
Interesting, the human being is the only animal who wears clothes, (although that some wear houses).
The human body is really quite beautiful and yet we are forced to cover it up in public for what?
Clothing was first used as protection from the elements. Later the modesty and desire (lust) aspect was introduced, i am not sure of this but most probably by religion who considered the human body to be evil in some way.
I for one would be quite happy to be naked when then the weather permitted. If only some people could keep their indignation, embarrassment and/lust under control