Christian women and lust

[Unveiled Artist]

Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?

I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.

Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?

 

[epronovost]

The idea that women are a temptation to men that must be controlled by hiding women and shaming the public display of their sexuality and sensuality is a common trope in many religions, but it's rarely stated as a weakness of men that women don't share textualy. It tends to be more cultural, but defended, carried and transmitted by religious authorities. In other words, you could have those religions without those implication, but the clerics and theologians of those religions have chosen otherwise.

 

[Kenny]

Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?

I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.

Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?

I don't think Christianity teaches that in a gender specific problem. Lust is a general thing that every one deals with at different levels.

However, Men's brains are activated by sight more than women.

Study Finds Male And Female Brains Respond Differently To Visual Stimuli

 

[Secret Chief]

Men's brains are activated by sight more than women.

Is this why women can't read maps?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?

I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.

Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?

If you ask me, women don't typically lust.

They for the greater part tend to run away from being lusted after most of the time.

Like the Stones sing,

"So hot for her yet she's so cold".

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If you ask me, women don't typically lust.

They for the greater part tend to run away from being lusted after most of the time.

Like the Stones sing,

"So hot for her yet she's so cold".

I don't know about others, I assume many women just hide their lust due religious cultural suppression. Can you imagine how life would be without abrahamic dictations on women's dress. It took awhile for the states to change that given the christian influence at the time.

 

[ChristineM]

Is this why women can't read maps?

Dangerous ground...

 

[Secret Chief]

Dangerous ground...

Is the dangerous ground on the right or on the left? Why are you turning the map upside down?

 

[ChristineM]

Is the dangerous ground on the right or on the left? Why are you turning the map upside down?

Because we are going backwards...d'oh

 

[Kenny]

I don't know about others, I assume many women just hide their lust due religious cultural suppression. Can you imagine how life would be without abrahamic dictations on women's dress. It took awhile for the states to change that given the christian influence at the time.

I don't think they hide it... I've seen women looking at some "fine" men and saying so.

Yes... it is interesting how "men" dictated how women should dress while they had basically no guideline.

I remember an example someone gave in reference to a comment of how supposedly women activated men's lust:.

Take two bottles of coca-cola - empty one and fill it with water and open the other and leave with the coke. Place each bottle in a hand and stick a thumb in the exposed opening. Shake both at the same time. One gets pressure with an eventual bath and the other doesn't even create a bubble.

The bottles represent men. The shaking is their looking at a women. It isn't the shaking that causes the lust... it is what is inside the bottle (man's heart) that shakes the lust and not the woman. When there is real love and not lust, the man just becomes a refreshing drink of water.

 

[ChristineM]

Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?

I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.

Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?

You are going to get a bucket load of indignant men when you ask questions like that.

I left church just before the age of "you should dress 'properly'" was fired at me, the properly meaning so as not to inflame men. So it never really effected me.

But my 2cents

I really think it must be a terrible imposition for men to get a raging ________ every time they see a woman in decent clothing... a glimpse of ankle and there is no controlling some men.

 

[Vinayaka]

I don't know about others, I assume many women just hide their lust due religious cultural suppression. Can you imagine how life would be without abrahamic dictations on women's dress. It took awhile for the states to change that given the christian influence at the time.

I concur. Repressed lust is still lust.

 

[Vinayaka]

I really think it must be a terrible imposition for men to get a raging ________ every time they see a woman in decent clothing... a glimpse of ankle and there is no controlling some men.

I think some days that men like this need to be locked behind bars, and forced to watch nude scenes or nude models walk by until they have overcome this unnatural feeling. In other words, once you get used to it, it becomes nothing. Folks who live near tropical beaches that have a lot of sunbathing just get used to it. I know I do.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I don't think they hide it... I've seen women looking at some "fine" men and saying so.

Yes... it is interesting how "men" dictated how women should dress while they had basically no guideline.

I remember an example someone gave in reference to a comment of how supposedly women activated men's lust:.

Take two bottles of coca-cola - empty one and fill it with water and open the other and leave with the coke. Place each bottle in a hand and stick a thumb in the exposed opening. Shake both at the same time. One gets pressure with an eventual bath and the other doesn't even create a bubble.

The bottles represent men. The shaking is their looking at a women. It isn't the shaking that causes the lust... it is what is inside the bottle (man's heart) that shakes the lust and not the woman. When there is real love and not lust, the man just becomes a refreshing drink of water.

I don't see the division. It sounds more like a stereotype especially when you have gay men who are attracted to other men as straight men are attracted to women. So, I'd assume it's not specific to the object of attraction just attraction itself. Vis versa. The same intensity of attraction to another woman for a lesbian would be the same if a straight women looked at a guy.

So, instead of women dressing up but not men, since attraction is not biased in those regards, maybe both should be dressed up so either won't be tempted whether between men, or women, or opposite (using human sexuality as an example that sexuality isn't sex dependent in its experience and normality).

I heard an example on a TED Talk about the body not knowing the difference if you're excited or being anxious. So, if someone has stage fright, they can tell themselves they are excited and the symptoms are the same as being scared. It's changing one's mindset. Instead of seeing men as more lustful then women, change the mindset to see sexual attraction as not sex-dependent (like the body doesn't know what's anxiety and what's excited).

I think that people would end up better that way without division between men and women roles. At least in the states.

 

[Kenny]

I don't see the division. It sounds more like a stereotype especially when you have gay men who are attracted to other men as straight men are attracted to women. So, I'd assume it's not specific to the object of attraction just attraction itself. Vis versa. The same intensity of attraction to another woman for a lesbian would be the same if a straight women looked at a guy.

So, instead of women dressing up but not men, since attraction is not biased in those regards, maybe both should be dressed up so either won't be tempted whether between men, or women, or opposite (using human sexuality as an example that sexuality isn't sex dependent in its experience and normality).

I heard an example on a TED Talk about the body not knowing the difference if you're excited or being anxious. So, if someone has stage fright, they can tell themselves they are excited and the symptoms are the same as being scared. It's changing one's mindset. Instead of seeing men as more lustful then women, change the mindset to see sexual attraction as not sex-dependent (like the body doesn't know what's anxiety and what's excited).

I think that people would end up better that way without division between men and women roles. At least in the states.

I think we are talking about two different things and then mixing them up. Or maybe we just didn't define to understand what we are saying

In my view, there is a difference between attraction and lust. Attraction is normal... lust, as I define it along with Merriam-Webster - is unbridled desire - sexual or otherwise.

In a sense, you said it when you mentioned "change the mindset". In other words, change your heart motivation which is what I was saying with the two bottles. One is unbridled and one isn't.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I don't think Christianity teaches that in a gender specific problem. Lust is a general thing that every one deals with at different levels.

However, Men's brains are activated by sight more than women.

Study Finds Male And Female Brains Respond Differently To Visual Stimuli

Hmm. Interesting. It leaves me thinking about gay men. Since they are attracted to men as women are attracted to men, to not arouse the other person's attraction, wouldn't it be wise for men to coverup too.

Given these respects, it doesn't sound like a men/women issue. Maybe both sexes should coverup?

 

[Secret Chief]

I really think it must be a terrible imposition for men to get a raging ________ every time they see a woman in decent clothing... a glimpse of ankle and there is no controlling some men.

Victorian men were even worse. A glimpse of a piano leg and they were mounting the keyboard.

(which of course is where we get the expression "tickling the ivories.")

 

[PureX]

Does christianity teach women have more control over their lust than men?

I read it in another thread, but to me lust control is a biological thing and no different than woman in severity just culture tends to say otherwise.

Does spirituality say men have less control then women though biologically it is not so?

Not being an authority on women, period, let alone Christian women, I cannot speak to how strongly they are tempted sexually, or how well they stifle that desire compared to men.

All I will say is that I have noticed over the years that Christians, both men and women, suffer from the enforced sexual ignorance they're usually being reared in, to a significant degree, as they tend to make really poor decisions regarding their sexual pairings when they become adults. They marry way too soon, and very often for all the wrong reasons, and then end up suffering the consequences. And if that isn't bad enough, in many instances, they struggle to maintain the failed union for far too long; increasing the damage.

 

[metis]

Back when we lived in hogans, caves, etc., one usually got married in their early to mid-teen years. Now, in the USA, the average age of first marriage is in the latter 20's. Thus, telling the average couple that they have to suppress the sex drive for that long ain't working out too well, especially since the sex drive is at its highest in the late teens.

Gotta go.

 

[Kenny]

Hmm. Interesting. It leaves me thinking about gay men. Since they are attracted to men as women are attracted to men, to not arose the other person's attraction, wouldn't it be wise for men to coverup too.

Given these respects, it doesn't sound like a men/women issue. Maybe both sexes should coverup?

Well. I don't want naked bodies walking around.