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I'm confused
- Thread starter Alone
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John 19:16-22
16 So then, because of them, he handed Him over to be crucified.
Therefore they took Jesus away. 17 Carrying His own cross, He went out to what is called Skull Place, which in Hebrew is called Golgotha. 18 There they crucified Him and two others with Him, one on either side, with Jesus in the middle. 19 Pilate also had a sign lettered and put on the cross. The inscription was:
JESUS THE NAZARENE
THE KING OF THE JEWS.
20 Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. 21 So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, “Don’t write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but that He said, ‘I am the King of the Jews.’”
22 Pilate replied, “What I have written, I have written.”
So, which name on the sign is the correct one? The one that was written in Hebrew, Latin, or Greek?
16 So then, because of them, he handed Him over to be crucified.
Therefore they took Jesus away. 17 Carrying His own cross, He went out to what is called Skull Place, which in Hebrew is called Golgotha. 18 There they crucified Him and two others with Him, one on either side, with Jesus in the middle. 19 Pilate also had a sign lettered and put on the cross. The inscription was:
JESUS THE NAZARENE
THE KING OF THE JEWS.
20 Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. 21 So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, “Don’t write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but that He said, ‘I am the King of the Jews.’”
22 Pilate replied, “What I have written, I have written.”
So, which name on the sign is the correct one? The one that was written in Hebrew, Latin, or Greek?
I don't know, that is exactly what I'm trying to figure out I just don't understand why names are different in different languages, of course I only speak one language so I can't prove nothing either way, just seems to me it would be a whole lot easier if your name was your name no matter where on the planet you are?
The username you have chosen for use on this forum is "Alone." Do you use that name everywhere you go on the planet, or just here on this forum?
Lol, only on this forum and in my head I am trying to use this forum to gather different perspectives on certain topics that I'm struggling with and then I can use all that information 2 hopefully gain a better perspective about God and the Bible and his son that died on a cross.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
There's this "argument" by the Jehovah Witnesses that if you don't call God by His
name then God will not hear you. But the name "Jehovah" was first recorded by a
Catholic monk in the Middle Ages. Because the authors of the bible didn't use vowels
we don't know how "God's name" is pronounced, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER.
God hears those that call upon His name - whatever name your culture calls Him.
Same for Jesus.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Assuming his given name was actually Yeshua, am I the only one who thinks it's a little weird for parents to literally name their son "Savior" in a culture that has a Messiah prophecy?
I guess it's kind of like parents who name the children, Jesus. But, I cannot imagine what it would be like for my son if I named him "Savior" in English. That's like weird, for the kid right? If the kid is special, but not the actual "Savior" that could be a little .. ummm .. hard on him?
I don't know...
I guess it would be like a Jewish person naming their child Moshiach. Does that ever happen? And if it did, that would be weird for the kid. Just say'n.
I guess it's kind of like parents who name the children, Jesus. But, I cannot imagine what it would be like for my son if I named him "Savior" in English. That's like weird, for the kid right? If the kid is special, but not the actual "Savior" that could be a little .. ummm .. hard on him?
I don't know...
I guess it would be like a Jewish person naming their child Moshiach. Does that ever happen? And if it did, that would be weird for the kid. Just say'n.
That is a very interesting point, it really doesn't seem like this has to be so controversial however it is, that being said it seems like there must be some importance to it for it to be this controversial? If it really didn't matter then people would not be so compelled to sway a person's belief one way or the other.
InChrist
Free4ever
They are not three different names anymore than John, Jean, or Juan are different, One is English, one French, and one is Spanish. Besides, it is WHO ( the Son of God, the Savior of the world) the name refers to and trust in this Person, which saves.
Terry Sampson
Well-Known Member
Weird indeed, but then again ... wait, there's a solution. Why not go to the Muslims and ask what name Allah gave him. If Allah and HaShem are the same God, Allah should know, right?
There was an Israeli cult leader a few years back named Goel Ratzon. Goel means savior (same root as Geulah).
Well I'm sorry that I think this way but if it's spelled different it's different, example a cat is not a lion and the lion is not a cat although some would argue that a lion is a big cat, however a lion is spelled different than a cat, that is how you make the distinction between the two if that makes any sense.
Neuropteron
Active Member
Jesus is the latin form of the Gr I.e.sous which corresponds to the Heb Ye.shu'a or Yehoh.shu'a and means "Jehovah(english) is salvation". It's a different name because Jesus it God's son, thus a different person.
i.e.sous, I did a little bit of research on this name and the debate was that Jesus was the son of Zeus what do you make of that, course I don't necessarily believe it but that's why I'm having such a problem with all these different names in different languages causes too much confusion which is why I'm still confused LOL
Neuropteron
Active Member
1 John 4:1 "do not believe every inspired expression ...because many false prophets have gone forth into the world...every inspired expression that does not agree with Jesus does not originate with God.
Which version does that verse come from?
Neuropteron
Active Member
I paraphresed
here is a KJV quote:
...believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are God's, because many false prophets are gone out...Every spirit that confesseth that Christ is come in the flesh is of God.
Interlinear:
...not every spirit be you believing, but be you proving the spirits if out of the God it is, because many false prophets have gone forth.
Byington:
..do not believe every spirit , but put the spirits to the test, whether they come form God, because there have many pretended prophets gone out into the world.
Most other translations say more or less the same thing.
Cheers
10-4 I definitely recognize the verse but I only read the King James version 1611 so I just knew the words were slightly different.