Prestor John
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As I said earlier, since abortion cases involving the products of rape are so statistically insignificant, there is no reason to even discuss them here.Why? I watched the Netflix documentary on Gloria Allred, a prominent American feminist activist and attorney, and learned that she had been raped at gunpoint at age 25 while vacationing in the Caribbean.
However, I do consider it worthy to mention that pointing to an extreme outlier to support your case is very unconvincing.
I bolded the word “needed” to draw attention to the fact that she did not “need” to get a back alley abortion.She was asked if that was the worst thing that had ever happened to her. She answered no, it was the back alley abortion she needed because of the rape. She began hemorrhaging and developed a fever of 106 degrees due to infection, almost dying in the process.
No one can force any woman to keep the child she conceives. She can always put the child up for adoption.
A child being the product of rape does not automatically make them worthless.
For example, Jesse Jackson is a product of statutory rape.
I’m not about to argue that every woman who gets pregnant by their rapist should conceive the baby, but I am arguing that a back alley abortion is not a necessity.
If the unborn child has intrinsic value and adoption is always an option then there is no need for abortions.
Ms. Allred almost died, not because she was raped or because she was pregnant, but because she willingly agreed to let untrained individuals perform a potentially life-threatening surgical procedure on her.
She did not “need” a back alley abortion, but she did “need’ to report her rape and she didn’t do that.
She refused to help law enforcement investigate and hopefully track down her rapist.
Nope.You would have this back, but I say never again.
I’m against both rape and abortion.
I care about the life of the mother and the life of the not-yet-born.
A woman’s life does not end by giving birth, while a child’s life always ends if it is aborted.
Revisionist history again. The separation of Church and State has been a principle advocated since the birth of our nation.Those are the things I care about, not religious preferences.
Believe it or not, it’s not just religionists who are against murdering babies.
Let me reword this statement to portray how ridiculous I think it is,If your religion or conscience forbids you to get an abortion, don't get one. That's your freedom. But you would impose those views on others. You are not given that freedom.
“If your religion or conscience forbids you to [murder a baby], don't [do it]. That's your freedom. But you would impose those views on others. You are not given that freedom.”
Killing the not-yet-born is no different than killing the already born.
We do not get to choose which person has value and which doesn’t. We do not get to murder someone just because their existence is inconvenient or they are not wanted.
First off, you cannot label pro-life people “anti-choice” because they are the ones advocating for all choices, not just the one that kills a baby, like pro-choice advocates.Incidentally, it's not the rape that is relevant here. It's the unsafe conditions for abortion. I realize that many anti-choice people would allow for a woman like that to have a legal abortion, but I presume that the abortions performed before and after hers under those same circumstances, whatever the history resulting in an unwanted pregnancy, were just as dangerous. That's what you are advocating for when you advocate for recriminalizing abortion.
Those in the pro-life movement encourage education, safe-sex practices, becoming parents or placing the child up for adoption.
Classifying abortion as murder does not put a gun to a pregnant woman’s head and forces her to get a back alley abortion.
Women who choose to get such procedures feel like they have no other choice.
What we should be doing is talking about adoption more than abortion and make the process as streamlined as possible.
They need to know that they always have a choice.