As Much As I Hate To Do It . . .

Earthling · Sep 15, 2018

Since the recent brouhaha on the subject of "our great leader" has seemingly subsided at least momentarily I almost hate to post this, especially since I am actually apolitical and should know better than to stick my nose in where it could be metaphorically, at least, torn off and shoved directly down my throat . . . I have to do this.

Now, I wanted to vote for Ron Paul when Obama was running against him, but I was foolish enough to think that Obama was a good second choice. Though that wasn't enough for me to vote for him. I haven't voted since I turned 18 and voted for Ronald Reagan. But Obama took us for a ride. He was a great deal more likable than George W. Bush had been, but he was doing the same things Bush had done. And Trump, I thought, would be interesting. Now, I don't really care about any of this stuff. I'm apolitical, as I said, but what gets me is that now, everyone hates Trump, or at least are putting on a show like they do, and yet they still think Obama was a great president just because he was all likable and cool. Which he was. But he was a lousy president as far as the common people go. Trump, I'm no fan of. I've always thought he was a jerk.

Anyway, what this really is about is the political awareness, the political correctness, the abject stupidity of the modern day college campus and social and political protesters. Now, I'm not conversant on the subject myself, but I enjoy watching this guy, from Info Wars, no less, making it obvious how stupid people are nowadays.

This is a first in a series of at least 30, so, in the unlikely event that you haven't seen this and want to see more you can easily follow the trail.

Ellen Brown · Sep 15, 2018

Perhaps I "should" be A-political. I think that Obama stepped into a nest of racist, black hating people who were incensed that a "******" could be elected to President. I think that colored his Presidency in a very sad way.

I think the previous President was made very bad by his evil advisors. The idea of invading Iraq was really stupid.

Going back into my hole now.

Sha'irullah · Sep 15, 2018

Welcome to my world, I am forced to side with Trump on many occasions yet as a conservative I am labelled a Republican despite my opposition towards their policies and motives. The hatred for Trump on many things is unreasonable but where a lot of it is due is just to complicated for the populus who can't understand basic films like Inception.

The USA is sad.

Sha'irullah · Sep 15, 2018

Ellen Brown said:
Perhaps I "should" be A-political. I think that Obama stepped into a nest of racist, black hating people who were incensed that a "******" could be elected to President. I think that colored his Presidency in a very sad way.

Funny I just took it as a racist stepping into a nest of people who could care less about his color. Equality wasn't good enough for the fiend so he had to take us back.

sun rise · Sep 15, 2018

Ellen Brown said:
Perhaps I "should" be A-political. I think that Obama stepped into a nest of racist, black hating people who were incensed that a "******" could be elected to President. I think that colored his Presidency in a very sad way.

I think the previous President was made very bad by his evil advisors. The idea of invading Iraq was really stupid.

Going back into my hole now.

When it comes to people in office I want to know if they have basic morality and agree with the underlying principles of the American system. That's one differentiator. The contrast here is immense between a happily married man who ran a government that was stable and mostly free from corruption. The current regime is full of liars with the liar in chief running a corrupt and utterly swamp-like government.

Another is policy. The contrast here also could not be wider. I by no means agreed with everything President Obama did in office. Everyone makes mistakes and he made his share. He was also faced with a Congress that tried to stop everything he did but through it all he acted at least in public like a gentleman. The current one is anything but a gentleman and I disagree with almost everything he does.

LuisDantas · Sep 15, 2018

Sha'irullah said:
Funny I just took it as a racist stepping into a nest of people who could care less about his color. Equality wasn't good enough for the fiend so he had to take us back.

Uh, what?

That is... rather creative really.

Ellen Brown · Sep 15, 2018

sun rise said:
When it comes to people in office I want to know if they have basic morality and agree with the underlying principles of the American system. That's one differentiator. The contrast here is immense between a happily married man who ran a government that was stable and mostly free from corruption. The current regime is full of liars with the liar in chief running a corrupt and utterly swamp-like government.

Another is policy. The contrast here also could not be wider. I by no means agreed with everything President Obama did in office. Everyone makes mistakes and he made his share. He was also faced with a Congress that tried to stop everything he did but through it all he acted at least in public like a gentleman. The current one is anything but a gentleman and I disagree with almost everything he does.

And to brag about sexual assault on women ...

Evangelicalhumanist · Sep 15, 2018

RothschildSaxeCoburgGotha said:
Since the recent brouhaha on the subject of "our great leader" has seemingly subsided at least momentarily I almost hate to post this, especially since I am actually apolitical and should know better than to stick my nose in where it could be metaphorically, at least, torn off and shoved directly down my throat . . . I have to do this.

Now, I wanted to vote for Ron Paul when Obama was running against him, but I was foolish enough to think that Obama was a good second choice. Though that wasn't enough for me to vote for him. I haven't voted since I turned 18 and voted for Ronald Reagan. But Obama took us for a ride. He was a great deal more likable than George W. Bush had been, but he was doing the same things Bush had done. And Trump, I thought, would be interesting. Now, I don't really care about any of this stuff. I'm apolitical, as I said, but what gets me is that now, everyone hates Trump, or at least are putting on a show like they do, and yet they still think Obama was a great president just because he was all likable and cool. Which he was. But he was a lousy president as far as the common people go. Trump, I'm no fan of. I've always thought he was a jerk.

Anyway, what this really is about is the political awareness, the political correctness, the abject stupidity of the modern day college campus and social and political protesters. Now, I'm not conversant on the subject myself, but I enjoy watching this guy, from Info Wars, no less, making it obvious how stupid people are nowadays.

This is a first in a series of at least 30, so, in the unlikely event that you haven't seen this and want to see more you can easily follow the trail.

Funny, really, that Obama was in some ways much better than people think, and in other ways not so much. Certainly, inheriting the financial meltdown of 2008, he did actually a fantastic job, and by 2012, markets were back to where they were, or even higher. That trend continued throughout his 2 terms, and has been very beneficial to Trump, who will, of course, claim, that it was all his own doing, and better than anything any president has ever done before, or ever will again!

Yes, on some foreign policy issues, notably Afghanistan, North Korea, Iran, the Middle East, Obama fared not so well, but then, nobody else ever does, either. These are intractable problems that are going to be resolved only when the natives of those place finally grow up. And no American president is ever going to make them do that. Look at Trump's "big brag" in North Korea...in spite of all the rhetoric, there's not a single actual thing happening to denuclearize that nation, or to stop the building of long range ballistic missiles. It's all wishful thinking, as we'll find out soon enough.

But the big thing about Obama, that so hugely differentiates him from Trump, is that Obama really did try to be inclusive, to be president for all Americans. Trump, on the other hand, very deliberately, and with great calculation, is seeking to turn red Americans into the enemies of blue Americans, and vice-versa. And it is working. And it is the world's oldest, most tried and true method of facilitating fascism.

Obama will never be known as a "great" president, but he was not a bad one. History will dump Trump into the wastebasket of worst Presidents ever.

Ellen Brown · Sep 15, 2018

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Funny, really, that Obama was in some ways much better than people think, and in other ways not so much. Certainly, inheriting the financial meltdown of 2008, he did actually a fantastic job, and by 2012, markets were back to where they were, or even higher. That trend continued throughout his 2 terms, and has been very beneficial to Trump, who will, of course, claim, that it was all his own doing, and better than anything any president has ever done before, or ever will again!

Yes, on some foreign policy issues, notably Afghanistan, North Korea, Iran, the Middle East, Obama fared not so well, but then, nobody else ever does, either. These are intractable problems that are going to be resolved only when the natives of those place finally grow up. And no American president is ever going to make them do that. Look at Trump's "big brag" in North Korea...in spite of all the rhetoric, there's not a single actual thing happening to denuclearize that nation, or to stop the building of long range ballistic missiles. It's all wishful thinking, as we'll find out soon enough.

But the big thing about Obama, that so hugely differentiates him from Trump, is that Obama really did try to be inclusive, to be president for all Americans. Trump, on the other hand, very deliberately, and with great calculation, is seeking to turn red Americans into the enemies of blue Americans, and vice-versa. And it is working. And it is the world's oldest, most tried and true method of facilitating fascism.

Obama will never be known as a "great" president, but he was not a bad one. History will dump Trump into the wastebasket of worst Presidents ever.

And perhaps some prison time, or castration?

Revoltingest · Sep 15, 2018

RothschildSaxeCoburgGotha said:
Since the recent brouhaha on the subject of "our great leader" has seemingly subsided at least momentarily I almost hate to post this, especially since I am actually apolitical and should know better than to stick my nose in where it could be metaphorically, at least, torn off and shoved directly down my throat . . . I have to do this.

Now, I wanted to vote for Ron Paul when Obama was running against him, but I was foolish enough to think that Obama was a good second choice. Though that wasn't enough for me to vote for him. I haven't voted since I turned 18 and voted for Ronald Reagan. But Obama took us for a ride. He was a great deal more likable than George W. Bush had been, but he was doing the same things Bush had done. And Trump, I thought, would be interesting. Now, I don't really care about any of this stuff. I'm apolitical, as I said, but what gets me is that now, everyone hates Trump, or at least are putting on a show like they do, and yet they still think Obama was a great president just because he was all likable and cool. Which he was. But he was a lousy president as far as the common people go. Trump, I'm no fan of. I've always thought he was a jerk.

Anyway, what this really is about is the political awareness, the political correctness, the abject stupidity of the modern day college campus and social and political protesters. Now, I'm not conversant on the subject myself, but I enjoy watching this guy, from Info Wars, no less, making it obvious how stupid people are nowadays.

This is a first in a series of at least 30, so, in the unlikely event that you haven't seen this and want to see more you can easily follow the trail.

Try my approach.....side for or against policies, not the person.
This removes the blinding power love & hate from one's perspective.

Earthling · Sep 15, 2018

Revoltingest said:
Try my approach.....side for or against policies, not the person.
This removes the blinding power love & hate from one's perspective.

Good advice, I suppose, if not lost on the apolitical. That seems to be the opposite of what people do and, in fact, expect. I mean, they are all owned by the same people.

Sunstone · Sep 15, 2018

I'm not so sure Info Wars is compatible with genuine political awareness, but if that's your best speed, it's your best speed.

Revoltingest · Sep 15, 2018

RothschildSaxeCoburgGotha said:
....they are all owned by the same people.

That's what the uber-cynics say. I disagree.
If they really believed it, would they bother to vote...or get
so worked up over what they claim are minimal differences?
Nah.
Examine the history of competing candidates, eg, congressional
voting records, bills signed, bills introduced. Past is prologue.
At least you might think that the candidate is being paid to do
things which comport with your ideals better than the competition.
And sometimes (often?) one might desert the Big Two for a 3rd party.

osgart · Sep 15, 2018

I voted for ross perot. Since then, no votes. I am always tempted to vote democrat, but for abortion. And i totally disagree with conservatives, they like their economic empires free from law.

I want to vote so bad, but nothing out there represents me and i do not vote the lesser of two evils.

Twilight Hue · Sep 15, 2018

osgart said:
I voted for ross perot. Since then, no votes. I am always tempted to vote democrat, but for abortion. And i totally disagree with conservatives, they like their economic empires free from law.

I want to vote so bad, but nothing out there represents me and i do not vote the lesser of two evils.

I remember Ross Perot. He brought to attention a lot of things that should have been addressed by now. Unfortunately I think the system is so skewed now we will never have anybody like him in a position of real political power for a very very long time. Evidence by the brushing aside of Ron Paul.

In a very short time I predict we will be a true dystopian country.

osgart · Sep 15, 2018

Nowhere Man said:
I remember Ross Perot. He brought to attention a lot of things that should have been addressed by now. Unfortunately I think the system is so skewed now we will never have anybody like him in a position of real political power for a very very long time. Evidence by the brushing aside of Ron Paul.

In a very short time I predict we will be a true dystopian country.

I remember that Perot was gaining popularity, and then suddenly faded away. He had those sit down tv shows about how to balance the budget. Said he would run the government like a business. He wanted to , as president, drive a k car to work. I remember that he was very blunt and straight forward.

He was radically different then every politician i have seen in my life.

Dystopia!,perhaps. I am 47 y/o, and the idea of someone from my generation reaching the white house worries me.

Estro Felino · Sep 15, 2018

We thought he was from a Christian background and we were enthusiastic...
as soon as we found out what his religion was, we found his election an outrage to the 9 11 victims.

Earthling · Sep 15, 2018

Sunstone said:
I'm not so sure Info Wars is compatible with genuine political awareness, but if that's your best speed, it's your best speed.

That was sort of the point to my post. Even if I disagree with a person's perspective or the subject matter I like to see someone who can win a debate, especially in a crowd, and Info Wars or not, the guy makes the crowd look like idiots. Now, you may allow for selective editing, I don't know, I wasn't there, but the sheer volume of idiocy was enough to impress me. I even watched like 20 of the clips in that series. And it just goes on and on. An indicator of the political landscape of the country right now? Makes sense to me.

Sunstone · Sep 15, 2018

RothschildSaxeCoburgGotha said:
That was sort of the point to my post. Even if I disagree with a person's perspective or the subject matter I like to see someone who can win a debate, especially in a crowd, and Info Wars or not, the guy makes the crowd look like idiots. Now, you may allow for selective editing, I don't know, I wasn't there, but the sheer volume of idiocy was enough to impress me. I even watched like 20 of the clips in that series. And it just goes on and on. An indicator of the political landscape of the country right now? Makes sense to me.

I'm not arguing with you. You go ahead and believe any source you want. For me to argue about it would distract me from the humor of thinking Info Wars was informative. I don't mean you're funny, I mean the notion Info Wars is a good source is funny.

Ellen Brown · Sep 15, 2018

Sunstone said:
I'm not arguing with you. You go ahead and believe any source you want. For me to argue about it would distract me from the humor of thinking Info Wars was informative. I don't mean you're funny, I mean the notion Info Wars is a good source is funny.

Was "Info Wars" that Alex guy?

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