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Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Can you show me some readings where hillbilly is historically and presently a derogatory term? If what you say is true then this shouldn't have been on television:
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I don't know why you are compelled to apologize. I am not Haitian. However in context of Trump's words, Trump was mainly talking about black African countries and Latin American countries.
Forget the sh*****e remark, hasn't anyone seen Trump is drawing a pattern targeting blacks and latinos?
To be correct, it should read...
"....logic, not all whites are hillbillies...."
This is because "all" is being negated, not "whites".
I loved that show! Anyhow here, first line.
“Hillbilly is a term (often derogatory).....”
Hillbilly - Wikipedia
Don’t you just love wiki?
If it had nothing to do with race or ethnicity, “white” would not be in the description.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I loved that show! Anyhow here, first line.
“Hillbilly is a term (often derogatory).....”
Hillbilly - Wikipedia
Don’t you just love wiki?
Again, this does not prove racism, only derogatory against those who live in the Appalachian region. This word is not specific towards whites.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I am not concerned about the urban dictionary just correcting you on the correct usage of the word racism on certwin words.
Trump and "s***hole" countries
With Trump as President, many of those highly educated potential students and immigrants from "s***hole" countries will be having second thoughts about making the US their first choice!
Given America's current opioid epidemic, inner city blight/crime, rural poverty, Puerto Rico and a Republican Congress' failure to renew the healthcare insurance coverage for 9 million of the nation's poorest children, large sements of the US population are also living under "s***hole" conditions!
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Sure well it’s how people use the term I’m concerned with. As mentioned context matters.
Edit: BTW what trump said wasn’t particularly racist but does show his true colors as usual with his bigotry xenophobia and racist attitudes towards many peoples.
I do empathise with them. If I were in a comparable utopia I wouldn't want to leave either.
You're crafting false realities. From 60% to 70% of asylum seekers are from stable countries and they are just seeking better economic circumstances*. They don't want to go back to their former lives, they came to stay.
*Most migrants to Europe 'are not refugees'
http://www.altaiconsulting.com/wp-c...igration-Trends-in-Libya-Final-Report-Web.pdf
Who said it was appropriate? It wasn't at all. As for the denial in general, I'm somewhat surprised, it sounded like something he'd say, and he generally acknowledges his statements that others deem out of bounds.
I don’t think you’re really considering the hardship and loss that would entail. Empathisizing is about considering how people who aren’t you would feel about it.
This is a 162 pg report. Could you quote the relevant portion and where to find it?
Even assuming your number above is correct that still leaves 30-40%. What, those people don’t count? Furthermore, it’s possible that those who came seeking a better life may have found they’d prefer home.
Regardless, it really doesn’t matter to my argument. My point was that offering people money is a humanitarian solution to getting a portion of refugees to return home. It’s a hell of a lot better than just forcing them out, and you can’t argue that some migrants would want to return home. Nothing you or Epic Beard Man have said changes that.
Excusing what Trump said as “the truth” lends a veneer of acceptability to his statement.
And I included other reasons people use to excuse Trump’s behavior (like, “it was the truth” or “it doesn’t really matter”) in that post because different supporters will employ different apologetics. Feel free to address those if you don’t feel “it was appropriate” fits you.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
Haha! Those weren't real hillbillies and it would be no different than a show called "The New York N*****s"
Stanyon
WWMRD?
There are many countries that are s********, it's not Trumps fault many of them have blacks and Latinos in them. A s******* is a s******* regardless of the color of the peoples skin.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
What a joke, we saw how that narrative worked out in Europe. No matter how you try to play it, the vast majority are not families or highly skilled professionals and more than a few are/were country shopping. If I were an immigrant with little to no skills and probably no chance of getting citizenship I'd travel to Germany. in Germany not only will they feed and house me for a while but send me back with several thousand Euros in my pocket after they reject my request.
Trump and "s***hole" countries
With Trump as President, many of those highly educated potential students and immigrants from "s***hole" countries will be having second thoughts about making the US their first choice!
Given America's current opioid epidemic, inner city blight/crime, rural poverty, Puerto Rico and a Republican Congress' failure to renew the healthcare insurance coverage for 9 million of the nation's poorest children, large sements of the US population are also living under "s***hole" conditions!
The “racism” aspect isn’t really about calling the countries ****holes. (That’s just a problem with crudeness, a lack of diplomacy and tact.)
The racism aspect comes into play with the context. Donald is asking why we accept people from ****hole countries. This clearly indicates that he finds such people to be undesirable immigrants. This is simplistic and offensive and untrue on many planes.
I personally don’t consider it racist per se. That argument doesn’t particularly resonate with me.
However, I do ultimately see it as a negative, simplistic stereotyping of entire swaths of people, and I don’t want that message to get lost.