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Satan acts the way he does because of how God made him.
YesHmmmmm.... no
Why have none of you had the humility the decency the Heart. and soul. to forgive the one Sinner who needed it most? Satan?
on a side note, I am on a roll today with these morally controversial questions.
Yay me.
I John 3:15:Not all killing may be said to be murder. Killing in war when combatants fire on each other is not murder, even in scripture. Killing by accident is also not murder.
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Church teaching rarely tows the line of scripture. Pastors and priests many times preach church doctrine, not Bible doctrine.
Isn't this post like saying "you are a corporation and your goal is to be sure everyone in the corporation has good health insurance so based on that". I mean I understand the confusion since church is confusing but I am not sure confusion matched is much clarity.So in Christendom essentially, all things are forgivable. and it is Your job as a Christian to convert people as so they can escape the firey brimstony damnation that is Hell. *besides the fact if most scientists went to Hell it probably has air conditioning by now*
So... Just a quick question.
Why have none of you had the humility the decency the Heart. and soul. to forgive the one Sinner who needed it most? Satan?
I Don't see anyone praying for his forgiveness. and if your sorry self can go drink margarita's and snort coke off a hooker on Saturday and be forgiven on Sunday. I am pretty sure a failed rebel that fell 1000s of years ago can be forgiven.
nor is there a stipulation that angels are not able to be forgiven or that you should only try for those who have the willingness too ask it.
because I know some of you go door to door 6am on a Monday and harass me so if you can go through that trouble you can have the decency of praying for Satan to find forgiveness.
on a side note, I am on a roll today with these morally controversial questions.
Yay me.
I didn't say a word. I quoted scripture. It says nothing to you that it doesn't say to me. All I do is show you what our holy scripture teaches.You are saying murderers cannot come to christ.
I didn't say a word. I quoted scripture. It says nothing to you that it doesn't say to me. All I do is show you what our holy scripture teaches.
While some preach eternal suffering, according to my studies, those who are damned simply return to non-existence for all eternity. There is no heaven or hell in death; there is only the not being in death.
You say things, but none are supported by scripture.The gospel says chriet forgives those who sinned. The only excemption is those who reject christ. It makes sense. Murder, if one asks forgiveness, is forgiven by christ blood on the cross. Murder, if continued with no desire for forgiveness the person will be stuck in sin.
hmmm.... no...Yes
Satan would have had to be made differently than the good angels to explain why Pride would enter one of their hearts and the others would be completely obedient.
If a person has committed murder, the only thing s/he can do is to do his or her best to find favor in the eyes of God so that perhaps there might be ameliorating circumstances, mental illness, or some such.
As mentioned, killing in war may (may) not be considered murder, just as accidental killing, manslaughter also may be excused depending.
I can provide scriptures for the above, though it may take me some time to find them. The point is, all things that have to do with the Christian faith must, MUST, be rooted in scripture.
Matthew 7:21-23 21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
Matthew 7:13-14 13 “Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.
Iniquity would never have been found in him and he would not have been inclined towards pride and Rebellion if he had been made exactly like the angels that were perfectly obedient.hmmm.... no...
It says "He was perfect UNTIL iniquity was found..."
God made him perfect like man until one decides to sin. Can't change what is written.
I don't think it's healthy to dislike Christians, Muslims or Jews, even if you dislike their religious views. As it goes, most are decent folk in any religion or no religion.
oh I dislike the Muslims too, but have less issue with their works since they are more logically sound within their own book, so I take issue only with the book itself than their interpretation. I would DIslike the jew's but they have gotten enough punishment. and keep to themselves quite a bit.
Very nice. The problem is that the apostles refined what Jesus said in several places. But, perhaps, some of those who committed this deed might be forgiven based on the scriptures you nicely provided.Mark 3:28-29
"Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"--
Luke 12:10 "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.
Matthew 12:31-32
"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
2. Luke 12:9-10 But anyone who denies me here on earth will be denied before God’s angels. Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven
@Grandliseur
The verses you quoted are the punishments for those who have not repent of their sins such as murder. When they repent, they are forgiven. When they are forgiven,
why would you say they are not? That is like saying christ blood does not save all sins just a selective few.
God doesn't make robots.... The are all PERFECTLY OBEDIENT until they decided not to.Iniquity would never have been found in him and he would not have been inclined towards pride and Rebellion if he had been made exactly like the angels that were perfectly obedient.
Some angels were inclined to be faithful, other Angels were inclined toward pride and Rebellion. The fault is God's that's some angels desired to be faithful and other Angels desire to Rebel.God doesn't make robots.... The are all PERFECTLY OBEDIENT until they decided not to.
Free will is still free will.
Some angels were inclined to be faithful, other Angels were inclined toward pride and Rebellion. The fault is God's that's some angels desired to be faithful and other Angels desire to Rebel.
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It's obvious.Where is your scriptural support for this position?
Here the problem also comes down to what constitutes blasphemy. In the OT we see that many were killed by God for not having faith.So, you're saying murder just as blasphemy is not forgivable?