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Christian Atheism

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Is there some reason for wanting to identify as 'Christian' that I'm missing here?
if wolves can come in sheeps clothing, then are they wolves because of actions? or wolves because of what they chose to wear?


what is more important?
The way they look?
or
The WAY they act?


John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
You are right. If what you do gives you pleasure and knowledge, it is not a waste of time.



I have no gripe, just a difference of opinion as to the value of roll playing.



Christianity is not a fantasy on your say so. Many more intelligent than you accept it as a fact. If all of your reading has not led you to the FACT there is a spiritual life, it only has earthly value and when the fat lady sings, you will understand the ultimate knowledge of the truth.

And those said people do not have the intellectual fortitude to shaken their own beliefs. The amount of philosophical dilemmas and logical fallacies posed by Christian teaching is so unfathomable we might as well make the core doctrines of Christianity itself a fallacy.

If I cannot use any of my senses to find a spiritual life then how do you know it? Do you have supernatural eyes or ears? I have been a Christian before and felt that it was real but presuming reality and experiencing it are not the same.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
And those said people do not have the intellectual fortitude to shaken their own beliefs. The amount of philosophical dilemmas and logical fallacies posed by Christian teaching is so unfathomable we might as well make the core doctrines of Christianity itself a fallacy.

give me an example. Maybe you have not studied it enough to understand it.

If I cannot use any of my senses to find a spiritual life then how do you know it? Do you have supernatural eyes or ears?

Something will change in your life, that you do not understand.


I have been a Christian before and felt that it was real but presuming reality and experiencing it are not the same.

If you were ever a Christian, you still are. You have become a prodigal.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
give me an example. Maybe you have not studied it enough to understand it.



Something will change in your life, that you do not understand.




If you were ever a Christian, you still are. You have become a prodigal.

I was also a Muslim!

But I am done, these are laughable comments
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
So is a practicing christian, who doesn't believe Jesus is God an atheist?

How can one be a practicing Christian if they don't believe in Christ? But one doesn't have to believe that Jesus is God to believe in a god. Adherents of Judaism reject Jesus as the son of god yet are quite obviously not atheists, for example.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
How can one be a practicing Christian if they don't believe in Christ? But one doesn't have to believe that Jesus is God to believe in a god. Adherents of Judaism reject Jesus as the son of god yet are quite obviously not atheists, for example.

jesus wasn't, isn't, and will never be exclusively christ.

colossians 3:11
romans 8:11
 

Baroodi

Active Member
Who described Jesus as God? Did Jesus told his followers anywhere he is God and need to be worshiped? Jesus is not God, he is a messenger of God to the Jews who tried to kill him but Almighty God raised him to heavens. If Christians believe Jesus was crucifixed and that he is God, then how people will be able to kill God who was helpless to defend himself. Please someone to use logic and answer these questions.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
if wolves can come in sheeps clothing, then are they wolves because of actions? or wolves because of what they chose to wear?


what is more important?
The way they look?
or
The WAY they act?


John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Yeah...so...
You can follow the Bible, but leave out the supernatural parts. It's been done before, most famously by Jefferson. And I would see that as Christian philosophy.
Still confused by the motivation. I mean to say...

what is more important?
The way they look?
What they call themselves?
or
The WAY they act?

Ultimately, call yourself Christian if you like. Just be ready for people to misunderstand your position based on the use of that label.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yeah...so...
You can follow the Bible, but leave out the supernatural parts. It's been done before, most famously by Jefferson. And I would see that as Christian philosophy.
Still confused by the motivation. I mean to say...

what is more important?
The way they look?
What they call themselves?
or
The WAY they act?

Ultimately, call yourself Christian if you like. Just be ready for people to misunderstand your position based on the use of that label.

unlike Jefferson, I believe the miracles happened. I just believe they couldn't have occurred without a believer's cooperation.

Matthew 13:58
And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
unlike Jefferson, I believe the miracles happened. I just believe they couldn't have occurred without a believer's cooperation.

Matthew 13:58
And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.

Obviously. It is like ESP. You need to believe it in order for it to work :)

Ciao

- viole
 
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