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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. Fool

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    So is a practicing christian, who doesn't believe Jesus is God an atheist?
     
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    No.
     
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    That depends: does he believe in some other god who isn't Jesus (God the Father, the Holy Spirit, etc.)?
     
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    what about a person who thinks that a human is the epitome and the highest form of intelligence? that is someone besides Jesus. Jesus didn't equate himself with the Holy Spirit because blasphemy against the Holy Spirit wasn't forgivable by the Son, or the Father by the blasphemer. Thus the three must agree.


    Keep in mind that a typical christian generally equates Jesus with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    Doesn't really answer the question.

    If this person doesn't consider any of the things he believes in to be gods, then he's an atheist.

    Not true. The Trinity's a bit more complicated than that:

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    No, you don't have to believe Jesus is God to be a Christian, you only need to understand the stories of Jesus and what they point to.
     
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    nope, it's simply a mind, body, and action for some. the idea is not unique to christianity. the gnostic had a place in the early group of jesus' followers. the nag hammadi library being apparent, irenaus trying to quash it, and the syrian malabar nasrani being a remnant of it.

    your's is one interpretation
     
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    that is what the cult of personality did when they began to worship the teacher who taught what the Father revealed.

    there is no personality, no self, there is only the ONE having many forms. I AM that i am
     
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    agreed, he who does the will of the ONE is my brother, sister, mother.

    wolves come in sheeps clothing all the time but it is the one who follow the Law who have fulfilled the Law.

    What is the Law? to be called Christian? to worship Jesus? to follow after the whole world?
     
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    A practicing christian who does not believe in a creator/deity is an atheist by strict definition. If that christian believes in a creator, whether or not jesus is god, that christian isn't an atheist.
     
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    I don't believe in a God apart from self. God is omnipresent. thou shall not worship any other God because there is none apart from self.

    Everything came from the same big bang


    66 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
     
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    I don't understand the point you're making?
     
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    Someone can ostensibly fulfill the rites and practises of Christianity and be an atheist. They can't BE a Christian and be an atheist, it's contradictory.
     
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    I would disagree. I personally like the teaching of Jesus and will promote them in a conversation. The only thing I do differently is add an O to God. Whenever God is referred to in the teachings I make it read Good. It actually works quite well for me. I will admit I'm agnostic but I've been on the RF long enough to see atheists promote spirituality. I see no problem in promoting Christianity without the God.
     
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    Yep, I'm happy enough with all that. I just don't think many Christians would actually consider you a Christian.
    You're effectively using the Christian method as a form of philosophy.
     
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    I'm not much familiar with Any one like that , i have seen what I would call cultural Christians. To answer your question though, yes they could be labeled atheist.
     
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    Let us not falsely over simplify it either....
     
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