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Is Cannabis the Answer?

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
It's hard to have a logical conversation with someone who's high, there have been some case in points in this thread!!
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
No substance is inherently addictive; (other than food or water or air).
People have addictive personalities; the person who is addicted to Heroin, is often a compulsive sugar eater,
and if you take that away will resort to any compensatory behavior, even excessive exercise.
I see, so you would need to be someone with an addictive nature in the first place. ?
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
you don't mind if those kids smoke medical marijuana??

Lyndon, no one is suggesting that kids "smoke" anything. Medicinal Cannabis oil is taken orally like any other medicine....often just a few mls. I have seen one parent stop his child's seizure by rubbing it on the soles of his feet. It can also be used as a suppository. We have receptors all over our bodies so that we take up the cannabinoids readily because they are natural, not a synthetic, artificially produced drug, that our bodies react to in a negative way...that is what produces side effects, which can be worse than the actual illness in many cases. You have prejudices which seem to blind you to the truth.

People are free to exercise their own conscience in this matter. Where Cannabis is legal, people should try it out for its medicinal qualities, even for the calming effect it has in a stressful life. Alcohol does the same but no one seems to mind that drug. o_O If God put it here for our benefit, then why is man trying to keep it from us? I can only see sinister motives. :(
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
and the by products of plastic and nylon cannot be made nonpoisonous

Yes, "some mistakes are built to last."...(stolen from George Michael) :facepalm: And still my supermarket uses plastic bags. If they all stopped, made to by law, then people would be forced to remember to bring their bags with them or to buy biodegradable and reusable ones in store.

How hard is it really? :shrug:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
because medical marijuana is formulated by drug dealers at marijuana co ops, not pharmaceutical companies that have to legally get the dosage right and consistent every time.
In many cases, they are legally protected from wrong doings, and many politicians are pushing to make such a blanket exemption.
But, that's also America. I don't know how other places do it. Here, drug companies are the main drug dealers, with the "talk to your doctor" and free samples and goodies for the doctors.
 

wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
People are free to exercise their own conscience in this matter. Where Cannabis is legal, people should try it out for its medicinal qualities, even for the calming effect it has in a stressful life. Alcohol does the same but no one seems to mind that drug. o_O If God put it here for our benefit, then why is man trying to keep it from us? I can only see sinister motives. :(

Deeje, its all about control and money. This sacred plant is in my opinion the Tree of Life. It is medically what I call a hero. I asked a former doctor friend of mine, who was an open sort of chap, what his thoughts were regarding cannabis as a medical wonder drug and he nodded his head and then said it is a better option than many of big pHarma's products.

My friend had Stage 4 bowel cancer and she cured it by taking cannabis oil. Stunned her consultant !

Off topic I know, but Manuka Honey is being researched because it has healing properties. When my mother was an out patient for leg ulcer care the nurse dealing with my mum was going to New Zealand to find out more about it.

Back on track:-

 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I think it is more likely the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil IMHO
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Deeje, its all about control and money. This sacred plant is in my opinion the Tree of Life. It is medically what I call a hero. I asked a former doctor friend of mine, who was an open sort of chap, what his thoughts were regarding cannabis as a medical wonder drug and he nodded his head and then said it is a better option than many of big pHarma's products.

Many doctors are waking up to the fact that they have been hoodwinked about this harmless plant.

We all know that the system is broken but who will mend it? No one seems to have the gumption to speak up and change the laws. We have to ask why, when our loved ones are suffering needlessly and the evidence for the value of this natural healing plant is there for all to see. They have run out of excuses and the truth is out there.

My friend had Stage 4 bowel cancer and she cured it by taking cannabis oil. Stunned her consultant !

There is more than one cure for cancer, but the head medicos and big pharma will not allow the truth to be told.
That is just plain wicked IMO.
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Off topic I know, but Manuka Honey is being researched because it has healing properties. When my mother was an out patient for leg ulcer care the nurse dealing with my mum was going to New Zealand to find out more about it.

Yes, yet another natural solution.....it has been used here in Oz for leg ulcers with great success by those who had no success with the orthodox medical approach. Natural is best, but the power is great, the propaganda is convincing and people are gullible. :( Until doctors access the truth for themselves, they will go on believing what the drug companies' funded research suggests. There is a better way that does not result in more suffering.

The "them" and "us" mentality with complementary medicine needs to go. Medicine is medicine....and what counts is whether it works or not.....not who prescribes it.....we can see the clear evidence that orthodox medicine is not really healing many at all. It is 'treating' them and offering some symptomatic relief, but no cures are ever forthcoming. Patients are really only customers to the pharmaceutical industry.

Back on track:-


Yes, it is astounding that medicinal cannabis could solve so many health problems and hemp could solve the world's pollution problems in so many areas.....plastic, clothing, shoes, rope, bio-fuel....and the list goes on and on....yet somewhere along the line, some greedy people wanted to make money and saw unnatural ways to make it rich. When money becomes more important than humanity, humans cease being human. o_O
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I think it is more likely the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil IMHO
Lyndon, we all know that your experience has colored your view, but you never really answered my question...was weed the only drug you took?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I did drugs before my 22nd birthday, after that I just smoked weed, still ended up in the hospital over and over till I quit, you are in denial of that, you actually believe pot is all positive for everyone, total BS.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I did drugs before my 22nd birthday, after that I just smoked weed, still ended up in the hospital over and over till I quit, you are in denial of that, you actually believe pot is all positive for everyone, total BS.
We are not here discussing smoking pot for recreational use.....different strains of the plant are used medicinally. Used in its raw state is beneficial for overall health and well-being. You seem to be denying that.
Do you see all varieties of this plant as equally bad.....what about industrial hemp, which is useless as a drug but fantastic for many other uses? It is related to marijuana but cannot be used as a drug. They banned this harmless plant because it was a threat to other polluting industrial products, promoted by the big corporations.

Please educate yourself because people like you just perpetuate the myth that all cannabis is bad....that is just NOT TRUE.
 

wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
New I think it is more likely the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil IMHO

Lyndon, the evil is supplied by humankind, it is The Tree of Knowledge. We as a species are a vile lot and if/when one nation or other presses the red button and we become no more. The Earth will heal itself.

When money becomes more important than humanity, humans cease being human.

Deeje, sadly we are controlled by this monster. Its lunacy sees Sky Sport pay the FA £8.3 Billion for the rights to broadcasts the majority of the English Premier League's football matches ! Its going to the wrong people - starving - homeless - elderly - disabled are more deserving. Imagine what could be achieved if even half the amount was given to non govermental organisations and charities to bring change and healing. Idealist or day dreamer I here you say - but it COULD be done !!!
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
We as a species are a vile lot and if/when one nation or other presses the red button and we become no more. The Earth will heal itself.

I started another thread with this story of how the earth can heal itself just by putting everything back where it should be.
Nature has balance and man is usually the idiot who messes it up.
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They Released 14 Wolves In A Park. But No One Was Prepared For THIS. Unbelievable That Nature..

Deeje, sadly we are controlled by this monster. Its lunacy sees Sky Sport pay the FA £8.3 Billion for the rights to broadcasts the majority of the English Premier League's football matches ! Its going to the wrong people - starving - homeless - elderly - disabled are more deserving. Imagine what could be achieved if even half the amount was given to non govermental organisations and charities to bring change and healing. Idealist or day dreamer I here you say - but it COULD be done !!!

I hear you. :(....and if the money spent on war and weapons was redirected to feed the starving children of the world and to improve their living standards and education, we would see another dream come true.

Have you seen this 12 year old's address to the UN?


We should perhaps listen to the children. They seem to see things more clearly than a lot of adults.
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I am reminded of the words of Jesus who said "the meek shall inherit the earth".....I'm sure he doesn't intend to give us a dead planet. He just needs to evict the ones who are messing things up. (Revelation 11:18)

When he taught us how to pray in the Lord's Prayer, he said "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". I see his words relating to a prophesy in Daniel 2:44.....speaking about the current world rulers.....
“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever."

Those words give all his disciples hope for better rulership in the not too distant future. The "kingdom" that Jesus taught us to pray for is a world government, not of man's making, but of God himself. He is the one who will rectify this situation without any action required on our part. This is my hope for the future....
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.....what hope do you have in your belief system?
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
because medical marijuana is formulated by drug dealers at marijuana co ops, not pharmaceutical companies that have to legally get the dosage right and consistent every time.
You would look much less foolish if you were to actually watch the videos in the OP.

However, since you have made it perfectly clear youa re not interested in truth or facts and are merely in this thread to vent emotional rants, I shall stop interrupting your much needed vent time.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
@Lyndon King Solomon wrote:

Proverbs 23:20....
"Do not come to be among heavy drinkers of wine, among those who are gluttonous eaters of flesh. 21 For a drunkard and a glutton will come to poverty, and drowsiness will clothe one with mere rags."

You will notice the use of the adjectives here? "Heavy drinkers" and "gluttonous eaters". The Creator gives permission to enjoy what he has made, but not to abuse the privilege. Nothing good will result if you do.

In Israel, meat is seen to be reserved mostly for special occasions. Today's consumption of meat and the artificial way it is produced is the cause of much ill health.

Since humans (according to the Bible) were originally vegetarians, it stands to reason that a vegetarian diet was optimal for them at the start....but after the global deluge, suddenly a new source of protein was added to their diet. The Creator did not say why, but we must have needed that additional protein, and it was certainly not a hardship placed on any of us. As long as some rules were followed regarding the processing of the meat, and respect for the animal's life, then we were to enjoy it with no prodding of our conscience. The killing of animals was part of Israelite worship, so it was part of man's natural dominion over the animal kingdom, given by the Creator himself. (Genesis 1:26)

To choose vegetarianism today is a personal choice that many people make, but again it is a matter for individuals to decide.

Killing animals for food is what humans have done for thousands of years. In harsh climates where the growing of food was difficult, meat meant survival for the whole family or village. Since the Bible says that a water canopy once surrounded the earth, (Genesis 1:6-7) and this source of water was used in the flood of Noah's day, climatic conditions would have changed dramatically after that event. Perhaps it was to compensate for those changed conditions that God allowed the consumption of meat for humans? Whatever the reason, once God has solved the problems of abuse on this planet, all will return to its original state. That is my belief. :)
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
On researching some stats for causes of premature deaths annually in the U.S. here are the numbers.....

You tell me what should be illegal.
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Tobacco - 400,000*
Alcohol - 100,000*
Meth - 15,000
Pain Killers - 15,000*
Heroine - 400
Cocaine - 200
Ecstasy - 75
Marijuana - 0


Surprising Stats About Death From Alcohol, Tobacco, Weed & Other Vices

Here are some other interesting stats from Australia.

"Did you know?

  • Most drug related deaths of young Australians are due to alcohol.
  • 58% of the time alcohol is the drug involved for substance related admission into hospitals fro 15-34 year olds.
  • 814 people between the ages of 15 and 34 died as a result of the use of alcohol in 1998. In that same year 650 people aged 15-34 people died using illicit drugs.
  • Just under 70 % of teenagers between 14-17 get alcohol from friends or relatives.
  • Just under 50% of girls and 44% of boys buy alcohol from shops.
  • 30% of 13-17 year olds participated in unsupervised drinking at a sports club and 71% of these had never been asked for proof of age."
Teenage drinking
 
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