Why do women hate each other?

Women are generally much more cutthroat and merciless when it comes to resource guarding and acquisition. This seems to often display as verbal/psychological/emotional manipulation against perceived, competing females.

I've observed this with certain females in the past (like high school), but I've never hated other women nor do the women I hang out with hate each other.

Kilgore Trout said:

Women are generally much more cutthroat and merciless when it comes to resource guarding and acquisition.

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Considering women are still second-class worldwide in terms of being allowed to guard and gather resources in the first place, I'm going to have to ask for evidence of that. That, and considering a large number of wars have in some way been about resource guarding and acquisition and these wars have been pretty much driven by males in various cultures, really not sure how this follows on an intuitive commonsense level...

Quintessence said:

Considering women are still second-class worldwide in terms of being allowed to guard and gather resources in the first place, I'm going to have to ask for evidence of that. That, and considering a large number of wars have in some way been about resource guarding and acquisition and these wars have been pretty much driven by males in various cultures, really not sure how this follows on an intuitive commonsense level...

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I suppose not everyone has the save level of intuitive common sense.

Kilgore Trout said:

I suppose not everyone has the save level of intuitive common sense.

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It's rare to see a single sentence answer that also serves as an example of the content of said answer.

Well done, sir.

Thanda said:

Or a lot of them at least.

There are many examples I could give of me noticing this issue. But it all began years ago when I was in grade 7. I was a pretty talkative boy in class and my teacher tried putting me with different boys to keep me quiet. But when it didn't work with me (and others) she decided to make sure all boys sat next to girls. It was at this time that I first noticed how girls treat it each other. I saw letters being written about how one of the girls needed to be excluded from the group because she had been seen talking to someone who was from an "enemy" group.

Over the years I have noticed that gossip magazines, read mostly by women, spend an inordinate amount of time criticising women who are too fat or too thin. I have also met quite a few women who refuse to have any female friends (on the other hand I have never met a man who refuses to have any male friends).

All in all I have found women to be much nastier to each other than men are to each other - and that is even among women who are supposed to be friends.

So my question is, why is this the case? Women, why do you give each other such a hard time?

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Well, there are some out there - thinking that it is a calculated result of patriarchal society and religious training.

A group divided against itself can't rise up and win.

For instance, - teach women that ALL women fall into two categories, - Saint/Marriage material, and Whores. Thus dividing women against each other. This continues into - how are the OTHERs dressed, who do they hang out with, reputation, are they religious, etc,. Once taught it melds into all daily aspects of the duel dynamic.

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Ingledsva said:

Well, there are some out there - thinking that it is a calculated result of patriarchal society and religious training.

A group divided against itself can't rise up and win.

For instance, - teach women that ALL women fall into two categories, - Saint/Marriage material, and Whores. Thus dividing women against each other. This continues into - how are the OTHERs dressed, who do they hang out with, reputation, are they religious, etc,. Once taught it melds into all daily aspects of the duel dynamic.

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The problem with this theory is that in a society, men and women grow up in the same religions. They all believe in the same principles of right and wrong, heaven and hell, saints and sinners. But this doesn't lead the men to be as hard on each other and women as women are with each other. Clearly there is something about women which makes them more prone to noticing and caring about differences and enforcing conformity (and often being quite vicious about it) than men are.

The blaming of churches and religious adherence for this phenomenon actually brings up another point. Studies have shown that women are more religiously committed than men. In fact, many churches are sustained only because of the commitment of the women in their communities rather than men. Indeed women are actually the best preservers of culture and traditions in many societies. This means that whatever culture exists in a society, it owes its continued relevance mainly to the efforts of women. It is women who spend the most time with their kids during the earliest periods of development in which they are most impressionable. It is women therefore, who have the most power to instill beliefs and cultural norms in a society. Society can therefore just as well be described as matriarchal since whatever norms are in place are there largely because of the influence and efforts of women.

I can relate to this, a story follows:
I once had a woman at a workplace of mine that was pretty persistent about me effing her but when I denied her advancements she said she would call my wife and tell her we effed thinking somehow that it would cause problems between us and she would ultimately get what she wanted. Unfortunately for her me and my wife have great communication.

I say it's an age related thing for females.
They grow up, & mature.
Males just get bigger.
We're lucky, eh.

It doesn't seem that much different does it?

She was punching him in the hopes for some "D"

Thanda said:

True, but in all honesty as we men get older our rate of fighting reduces dramatically.........................

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Of course.
All the time that (despicable) men feel strong then they will use violence to win. If, or as they weaken they will change their minds!
The truth is that a %, a fairly high %, of all humans are bullies, and they don't need just strength to be violent. The effects of victimisation, harassment, intimidation, deception, back-biting, slander and exclusion are dreadful and can be administered by either gender, any age-group, any strength, anywhere.

I tell you what...... we ought to teach our children to avoid and/or cope with this evil.
I wonder what the subject would be called?

oldbadger said:

Of course.
All the time that (despicable) men feel strong then they will use violence to win. If, or as they weaken they will change their minds!
The truth is that a %, a fairly high %, of all humans are bullies, and they don't need just strength to be violent. The effects of victimisation, harassment, intimidation, deception, back-biting, slander and exclusion are dreadful and can be administered by either gender, any age-group, any strength, anywhere.

I tell you what...... we ought to teach our children to avoid and/or cope with this evil.
I wonder what the subject would be called?

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It is funny, I got stronger as I got older but I fought less than when I was weaker (hint: I'm 29 not 59)

In any case I did not state or attempt to state that "victimisation, harassment, intimidation, deception, back-biting, slander and exclusion" are the province of women only. I merely stated that women seem to do it much more often than men (by my and others observation).

I believe women don't hate each other, rather we all have competitive nature. We are conditioned to hate our gender because of partiacarchal thinking, objectification and what feminity in a men's view and the use of derogatory statements such as "Don't be a *****", "you run like a girl"; showing that girls are 'weak' etc. This is how society 'taught' us to 'survive'.

Yehet said:

I believe women don't hate each other, rather we all have competitive nature. We are conditioned to hate our gender because of partiacarchal thinking, objectification and what feminity in a men's view and the use of derogatory statements such as "Don't be a *****", "you run like a girl"; showing that girls are 'weak' etc. This is how society 'taught' us to 'survive'.

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So are you saying that women are so weak minded that they cannot think for themselves but are guided by what men tell them? Furthermore women have also often had derogatory things to say about men - has that made men hate other men?

I personally could never work out a woman's mind, so I don't know ?.,

Thanda said:

So are you saying that women are so weak minded that they cannot think for themselves but are guided by what men tell them? Furthermore women have also often had derogatory things to say about men - has that made men hate other men?

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Women are not weak, we are strong minded and that's what scares men, it's that we actually have opinions! Are you saying men are victims of reverse discrimination?

Yehet said:

Women are not weak, we are strong minded and that's what scares men, it's that we actually have opinions! Are you saying men are victims of reverse discrimination?

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I am referring to the fact that you put the blame for a negative character trait women have on men. In other words you are saying women only do bad things because men make them do it. I am asking you whether you believe women are that weak minded that they are guided by men as to what to think of each other,

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I am referring to the fact that you put the blame for a negative character trait women have on men. In other words you are saying women only do bad things because men make them do it. I am asking you whether you believe women are that weak minded that they are guided by men as to what to think of each other,

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Okay if you're saying that men didn't guide women in this way of thinking then why does misogyny exist? Why do some men have to create meninism rather than trying to understand feminism is the equilibrium for all spectrums of genders? Why do we still seem to live in a patriarchal society? Why couldn't we vote at the same time as men? Why do we have a social construction that females should be underpaid? Why were women deemed to be weaker when it comes to anything to do with physical activities or even gaming? If you think some men didn't give us negative traits then what did?

It could be a rudimentary natural inbuilt natural feeling to keep a more favorable male to female to produce a more favorable offspring, so women seemed to be more against each other, when it is only wanting a more stronger offspring with their own gens,, its all imprinted in our whole make up as a human.