some people see it ,some people dontlinwood said:With all due respect May the JW`s are like 0 for 7 on calculating the end of days.
I don`t think JW doctrine allows for any more "calculations" does it?
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some people see it ,some people dontlinwood said:With all due respect May the JW`s are like 0 for 7 on calculating the end of days.
I don`t think JW doctrine allows for any more "calculations" does it?
Daniel 2: 44 (both me and May have posted this, I like this scripture a lot too)The Grey Wolf said:Ive been reading alot of "and the kingdom of heaven will never crumble"'s and that sort of thing, and the only thing I can think is "Is that a chalenge?"
The Grey Wolf said:YEAH!!! ALRIGHT!! EVERY BODY JOIN IN!!!
"Oh beutiful For spaceous skys!
For amber waves of grain!
For purple mountains majesty,
Above the fruited plain!
AMERICA! AMERICA!
God shed his grace on thee!
And crowned thy good with brother hood from sea to shining seeeeeeeeeea!!!!!"
SECOND VERSE, SAME AS THE FIRS'!!!
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You will change that to "May the Warhart bless America. And bless the rest of the world, for I AM GOD!" That is pretty much how my prank speech will end. I am working on the script for the first one right now.AMEN And God Bless America!!!
FFH said:Daniel 2: 44 (both me and May have posted this, I like this scripture a lot too)
"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."
I believe this is a prophecy about the United States. Sure there are al lot of corrupt people who live here, and are serving in our government, and other various organizations, but the basic form of government was set up by God, and inspired by God, as the original founders of this country have stated. It is a kingdom set up by God, and it shall never be left to other people. We will defend it to the death if necessary. The United States is a force to be reckoned with, and nothing from within, or without, will ever cause it to fall into another nations hands. We don't realize how good we have it here. We are protected from other terrorist nations, now that we have beefed up security, and we have very little to fear, unlike other nations of the world. Count your blessings, thank God for this free and secure land that we live in, where we can worship as we choose, and are not harassed, or thrown in jail, or murdered, because of the way we choose to believe or not to believe.
This country, or kingdom, will never fall into an evil dictators hands. Even if people like us are in the minority.
any one who challenges The Almighty, they always come of worse in the end ,but those who put their trust in him will get many blessings , thats why he is having the GOOD NEWS about the heavenly kingdom goverment made known in all the earth ,so that people can get many blessings from it when it takes over the human goverments but the question is do people want it? its their choiceThe Grey Wolf said:Ive been reading alot of "and the kingdom of heaven will never crumble"'s and that sort of thing, and the only thing I can think is "Is that a chalenge?"
I agree wtih all of this, all I am saying is that for here and now, Christ rules from the heavens, through people that he has chosen. As much as we want to move into the next phase of our existence, when Christ will personally rule and reign on earth, we must still recognize that Christ is interested in the here and now. Christ rules through men on earth, in all nations. There are good, and righteous rulers, throughout the world. Christ has set up righteous kingdoms on earth, throughout the world. We are living in a good time. Things will only get better from here.may said:
(John 18:36) Jesus answered: "My kingdom is no part of this world. ............. manmade goverments set up by men on earth , no matter how much power they have will not be the kingdom that Jesus spoke of, the reason why is because it is set up in the heavens, and Jesus is the king
(Daniel 7:14) And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin
(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: "The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.............. this heavenly kingdom goverment is now established and set up and has been since 1914 right on time , manmade goverments make out many plans , but none of them can stand when Gods goverment puts them out of buisness. the duel world power that is standing now , will go down, as will all manmade rulerships. Jehovah Gods sovereignty will be vindicated
(Psalm 2:2) The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one.......... human rulerships do not recognize the rightful king ,Jesus christ, who is king in the heavenly goverment
(Revelation 19:19) And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army
(Revelation 16:16) And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew HarMa·ged´on
(Isaiah 60:12) For any nation and any kingdom that will not serve you will perish; and the nations themselves will without fail come to devastation .....so i dont think the bible is telling us that one manmade goverment will crush other manmade goverments it is telling us that all manmade goverments will fail
(Daniel 4:3) How grand his signs are, and how mighty his wonders are! His kingdom is a kingdom to time indefinite, and his rulership is for generation after generation
(Jeremiah 10:10) But Jehovah is in truth God. He is the living God and the King to time indefinite. Because of his indignation the earth will rock, and no nations will hold up under his denunciation
(Psalm 10:16) Jehovah is King to time indefinite, even forever. The nations have perished out of his earth............... and they will perish ,when he puts them out of action, so whos side is the best side to be on ? i think its Jehovahs side and his king Jesus christ
All manmade goverments are in the power of the wicked one satan the devil , as the bible tells us at 1 john 5;19FFH said:I agree wtih all of this, all I am saying is that for here and now, Christ rules from the heavens, through people that he has chosen. As much as we want to move into the next phase of our existence, when Christ will personally rule and reign on earth, we must still recognize that Christ is interested in the here and now. Christ rules through men on earth, in all nations. There are good, and righteous rulers, throughout the world. Christ has set up righteous kingdoms on earth, throughout the world. We are living in a good time. Things will only get better from here.
I know what you are saying, May. All kingdoms will become the kingdoms of our Lord, but don't you think that is already happening now ??? I see it happening right now. Christ can rule, from heaven, through existing earthly governments. Sure things will be much better when he personally reigns on earth, but what about until then. We can take dominion of the earth, and fight evil ourselves, and Christ wants us to do that, before he comes. He wants us to fight evil. We can't just leave it all up to him, to fix things. He is relying on us to do our part. We have to help him. Righteous governments have been set up on earth, to keep things under control. Our government is very righteous compared to, lets say, a fascist government. Think about it.
I understand that Christ is going to take over all governments, but for the here and now, this is the best we have. Christ has helped set up democratic nations. It's what works for now. Satan sets up fascist governments, and Christ sets up democratic governments. Can you not see this ???
Everyone must have a voice in who rules this nation. We are a diverse nation with many ethnic and religious groups. We must all have a say in who rules over us, for now. It is the American way, and Christ's way, and we would have a revolt, if it was set up any other way. We have to remember those that do not believe as we believe, and treat them equal, as brothers and sisters of the human race, with much worth. Christ would do the same. Martin Luther King's wife died today and we must remember what he has contributed to our society. He was a very religious individual, and spoke by the power of God. That was Christ working through him, to bring peace to this nation, by giving all men equal rights. We must treat each other equal. We must fellowship those around us regardless of ethnic, or religious background. We all have tremendous worth. We can live peacefully with each other, but only through a democratic government, for now, because there are many that do not believe in Christ, that is why he cannot reign personally on the earth at this time.
Thank goodness we don't have hardly any terrorism in this country, now. Security is so tight, now, and I feel very safe from any harm. Christ has made this a secure nation. More secure than any other nation. We should all feel very privileged, just to iive here, regardless of how we believe. It is a tremendous privilege to live here. We have to make the best of it till Christ comes and takes us off this planet. This is a period of grace for us all, till we get our acts together and really start becoming like Christ. We are not ready for him to rule and reign yet. A lot of us are not ready to be with him and have him rule over us. We are sinners saved by grace, but we need to be more righteous before he can rule and reign over us.
Okay, I am done you can sing again Grey Wolf. I need a picture of the American flag.
Each second that passes, is one second closer !michel said:Is it any nearer yet ?
Only considering there is an endFFH said:Each second that passes, is one second closer !
Yeah I saw a lone angel busking with his trumpet on the street last night. He said his mates were coming down to jam next week.michel said:Is it any nearer yet ?
must be , the good news is being made knownmichel said:Is it any nearer yet ?