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SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I've read enough of your posts to say that I used to be in a situation notably similar to yours.

Finally I just ditched the "Christian" label.
It was far more trouble than it was worth.

Anyway, it's much more fun being Purple. :D

I hear you....

I don't exclusively label myself a Christian, nor do I necessarily feel that theist is even my best label for explaining 'God' in my experience... but neither is atheist.

I don't like to limit myself.... but I also don't like to limit the label either, ya know what I mean? Labels themselves are own by the people who use them and I'm not ready to give up on Christianity and my place in it's bounds.

I wish to freely engage the roots of my spiritual journey and learning as it's always been a part of my backpack/tool box of understanding, reasoning and meaning making.

It's good to know I have a friend out here in RF land though.

Thanks for your kind words.

:namaste
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I thought not being a "christian" might be my place in some time in life, but when I entered this forum and saw people taking Jesus´s words in way I found completely ...off, I just felt I was still very emotionaly involved to Jesus to not call me Christian.

I mean, I pray less often to him than to God directly or other practices, but guess this forum helped me find out I am very mucha christian.

It still feels so off so many times because my comprehension of him is so far of of what the mainstream says. : /

If you believe yourself to be a Christian, then you are. It is pretty sad when people of your own faith won't acknowledge the fact, it has happened to me, on occasion and it is hurtful. Some of your fellow Christians, like me, do believe you to be a Christian- no matter what your denomination or even if you don't have a denomination. I hope that thought helps you feel a bit better.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
If you believe yourself to be a Christian, then you are. It is pretty sad when people of your own faith won't acknowledge the fact, it has happened to me, on occasion and it is hurtful. Some of your fellow Christians, like me, do believe you to be a Christian- no matter what your denomination or even if you don't have a denomination. I hope that thought helps you feel a bit better.

Thanks :) . But it doesn´t have much to do with people "believing" me a christian or not.

It´s more about the sense of comunity. I tend to have much more in common on my believes to hinduists, and because of this it´s kinda sad, but I understand how and why this happens, and it´s plainly not anyones fault, just kinda sad circumstance.

The thing is different christians see Christ in such a different light than other christians, that there seems to be nothing linking them together besides the label and the texts, and this two are shallow or superficial when you extract a completely different message.

So, it is how it is.
 

blackout

Violet.
I hear you....

I don't exclusively label myself a Christian, nor do I necessarily feel that theist is even my best label for explaining 'God' in my experience... but neither is atheist.

I don't like to limit myself.... but I also don't like to limit the label either, ya know what I mean? Labels themselves are own by the people who use them and I'm not ready to give up on Christianity and my place in it's bounds.

I wish to freely engage the roots of my spiritual journey and learning as it's always been a part of my backpack/tool box of understanding, reasoning and meaning making.

It's good to know I have a friend out here in RF land though.

Thanks for your kind words.

:namaste

Yeah.
The Kingdom Teachings (specifically, my own interpretation/understanding/experience of them)
are knit in my being, amidst so many other similar non-christian philosophies.

and back to the OP,
not only do I not dislike Christians
(for the mere fact they are Christians),
neither do I dislike 'Christianity'
(for the mere fact that it dons the label).

There are many interpretations of Christianity I personally dislike,
and admittedly, they would include pretty much every mainstream version.
But I don't look for philosopical commaradare in the christian communities (anymore)
so it really doesn't matter to me at all. :shrug:

Christians on the other hand I will only tend to dislike (as christians)
on the basis of how they REALIZE their 'faith'
in the scope of their life,
and
in relation to me
and others who see, interpret, live and believe differently
than they do.

:namaste
 
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SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I guess I ought to get back on topic too....


I most certainly do NOT dislike Christians or Christianity part and parcel....

The Dogmas are one thing and I work within and through them, finding myself in them somewhere....

But people are people... that's a one on one thing, fo sho'
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I guess I ought to get back on topic too....


I most certainly do NOT dislike Christians or Christianity part and parcel....

The Dogmas are one thing and I work within and through them, finding myself in them somewhere....

But people are people... that's a one on one thing, fo sho'
ohhh finding yourself in the doctrine?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I thought not being a "christian" might be my place in some time in life, but when I entered this forum and saw people taking Jesus´s words in way I found completely ...off, I just felt I was still very emotionaly involved to Jesus to not call me Christian.

I mean, I pray less often to him than to God directly or other practices, but guess this forum helped me find out I am very mucha christian.

It still feels so off so many times because my comprehension of him is so far of of what the mainstream says. : /

We can't put God in a box no matter how hard we try. Keep the faith.
 

Enlighten

Well-Known Member
They just don't like the judgmental attitude they see in so many Christians

This I would have to say is my beef with christianity, I removed the quick to generalize all christians as that doesn't fit with me, as I am aware that not all fit into this bracket.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Christine, I think for me I see Christianity so inundated in our culture, where Jesus, church nights on Wednesdays, Sunday brunches, Bibles in hotel rooms, political candidates who quote scripture, billboard after billboard after billboard on the road, dozens of Christian channels on cable/satellite television....you get the picture, right?

Personally, it gets annoying very quickly.

But let me be clear, this isn't a pity party, but acknowledging that I can sometimes lose my cool and generalize pretty easily. I make a concerted effort to refrain, and many times I succeed. Sometimes though I do roll my eyes when I'm told I need to accept Jesus as my lord and savior....again....and see all the advertising and propaganda and the public prayers, my imperfect eyes do admittedly see Christians as homogenous from time to time as a force to be reckoned with and I'll put my dukes up.

Sorry, y'all. Can I make it up to you with some chocolate chip cookies?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
When I lived in Japan, Buddhist and Shinto religious symbolism, holidays, etc were everywhere. It didn't bother me a bit.

The majority of the Japanese are either Buddhist, Shinto, or a mixture of both. It's just the reality. So what?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
I never said that God doesn't set His own limits. What I said is that WE don't set God's limits.

i never said that you did...
i said giving god attributes puts god in a box...and attribute WE label god as having limits god...

for instance...
god is good presents the problem of evil
god is all knowing presents the problem of our will
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
i never said that you did...
i said giving god attributes puts god in a box...and attribute WE label god as having limits god...

for instance...
god is good presents the problem of evil
god is all knowing presents the problem of our will

They're not problems for me.
 
Christine, I think for me I see Christianity so inundated in our culture, where Jesus, church nights on Wednesdays, Sunday brunches, Bibles in hotel rooms, political candidates who quote scripture, billboard after billboard after billboard on the road, dozens of Christian channels on cable/satellite television....you get the picture, right?

Personally, it gets annoying very quickly.

But let me be clear, this isn't a pity party, but acknowledging that I can sometimes lose my cool and generalize pretty easily. I make a concerted effort to refrain, and many times I succeed. Sometimes though I do roll my eyes when I'm told I need to accept Jesus as my lord and savior....again....and see all the advertising and propaganda and the public prayers, my imperfect eyes do admittedly see Christians as homogenous from time to time as a force to be reckoned with and I'll put my dukes up.

Sorry, y'all. Can I make it up to you with some chocolate chip cookies?

you must be in the states because in Britain you barely hear anything on tv or billboards or anywhere.
 
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