BTW a fun filled day has been organised for tommorow the 15th,an Infitada,i guess there will be Fireworks
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Yeah, the IDF will use their usual restraint and speak of their "Arab brothers" in the aftermath of this.
Christopher Hitchens desribes Islamofacism quite well,it fits
Article Twenty-Two: The Powers which Support the Enemy
The enemies have been scheming for a long time, and they have consolidated their schemes, in order to achieve what they have achieved. They took advantage of key elements in unfolding events, and accumulated a huge and influential material wealth which they put to the service of implementing their dream. This wealth [permitted them to] take over control of the world media such as news agencies, the press, publication houses, broadcasting and the like. [They also used this] wealth to stir revolutions in various parts of the globe in order to fulfill their interests and pick the fruits. They stood behind the French and the Communist Revolutions and behind most of the revolutions we hear about here and there. They also used the money to establish clandestine organizations which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests. Such organizations are: the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, Lions Clubs, B’nai B’rith and the like. All of them are destructive spying organizations. They also used the money to take over control of the Imperialist states and made them colonize many countries in order to exploit the wealth of those countries and spread their corruption therein. As regards local and world wars, it has come to pass and no one objects, that they stood behind World War I, so as to wipe out the Islamic Caliphate. They collected material gains and took control of many sources of wealth. They obtained the Balfour Declaration and established the League of Nations in order to rule the world by means of that organization. They also stood behind World War II, where they collected immense benefits from trading with war materials and prepared for the establishment of their state. They inspired the establishment of the United Nations and the Security Council to replace the League of Nations, in order to rule the world by their intermediary. There was no war that broke out anywhere without their fingerprints on it: “…As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their efforts are for corruption in the land and Allah loves not corrupters.” Sura V (Al-Ma’ida—the Tablespread), verse 64 The forces of Imperialism in both the Capitalist West and the Communist East support the enemy with all their might, in material and human terms, taking turns between themselves. When Islam appears, all the forces of Unbelief unite to confront it, because the Community of Unbelief is one. “Oh ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pain to ruin you. Hatred is revealed by [the utterance of] their mouth, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if you will understand.” Sura III, (Al-Imran), verse 118 It is not in vain that the verse ends with God’s saying: “If you will understand.”
Christopher Hitchens makes the following comparison:“The most obvious points of comparison would be these: Both movements are based on a cult of murderous violence that exalts death and destruction and despises the life of the mind. ("Death to the intellect! Long live death!" as Gen. Francisco Franco's sidekick Gonzalo Queipo de Llano so pithily phrased it.) Both are hostile to modernity (except when it comes to the pursuit of weapons), and both are bitterly nostalgic for past empires and lost glories. Both are obsessed with real and imagined "humiliations" and thirsty for revenge. Both are chronically infected with the toxin of anti-Jewish paranoia (interestingly, also, with its milder cousin, anti-Freemason paranoia). Both are inclined to leader worship and to the exclusive stress on the power of one great book. Both have a strong commitment to sexual repression—especially to the repression of any sexual "deviance"—and to its counterparts the subordination of the female and contempt for the feminine. Both despise art and literature as symptoms of degeneracy and decadence; both burn books and destroy museums and treasures.[3]
Really well don't you think,no wonder Mein Kampf was a best seller in Palestine
Article Twenty-Two: The Powers which Support the Enemy
The enemies have been scheming for a long time, and they have consolidated their schemes, in order to achieve what they have achieved. They took advantage of key elements in unfolding events, and accumulated a huge and influential material wealth which they put to the service of implementing their dream. This wealth [permitted them to] take over control of the world media such as news agencies, the press, publication houses, broadcasting and the like. [They also used this] wealth to stir revolutions in various parts of the globe in order to fulfill their interests and pick the fruits. They stood behind the French and the Communist Revolutions and behind most of the revolutions we hear about here and there. They also used the money to establish clandestine organizations which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests. Such organizations are: the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, Lions Clubs, B’nai B’rith and the like. All of them are destructive spying organizations. They also used the money to take over control of the Imperialist states and made them colonize many countries in order to exploit the wealth of those countries and spread their corruption therein. As regards local and world wars, it has come to pass and no one objects, that they stood behind World War I, so as to wipe out the Islamic Caliphate. They collected material gains and took control of many sources of wealth. They obtained the Balfour Declaration and established the League of Nations in order to rule the world by means of that organization. They also stood behind World War II, where they collected immense benefits from trading with war materials and prepared for the establishment of their state. They inspired the establishment of the United Nations and the Security Council to replace the League of Nations, in order to rule the world by their intermediary. There was no war that broke out anywhere without their fingerprints on it: “…As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their efforts are for corruption in the land and Allah loves not corrupters.” Sura V (Al-Ma’ida—the Tablespread), verse 64 The forces of Imperialism in both the Capitalist West and the Communist East support the enemy with all their might, in material and human terms, taking turns between themselves. When Islam appears, all the forces of Unbelief unite to confront it, because the Community of Unbelief is one. “Oh ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pain to ruin you. Hatred is revealed by [the utterance of] their mouth, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if you will understand.” Sura III, (Al-Imran), verse 118 It is not in vain that the verse ends with God’s saying: “If you will understand.”
Christopher Hitchens makes the following comparison:“The most obvious points of comparison would be these: Both movements are based on a cult of murderous violence that exalts death and destruction and despises the life of the mind. ("Death to the intellect! Long live death!" as Gen. Francisco Franco's sidekick Gonzalo Queipo de Llano so pithily phrased it.) Both are hostile to modernity (except when it comes to the pursuit of weapons), and both are bitterly nostalgic for past empires and lost glories. Both are obsessed with real and imagined "humiliations" and thirsty for revenge. Both are chronically infected with the toxin of anti-Jewish paranoia (interestingly, also, with its milder cousin, anti-Freemason paranoia). Both are inclined to leader worship and to the exclusive stress on the power of one great book. Both have a strong commitment to sexual repression—especially to the repression of any sexual "deviance"—and to its counterparts the subordination of the female and contempt for the feminine. Both despise art and literature as symptoms of degeneracy and decadence; both burn books and destroy museums and treasures.[3]
Really well don't you think,no wonder Mein Kampf was a best seller in Palestine
OK i get it,the idea is to follow the OP and blame Israel for everything and not take into consideration what part the Palestinians,Hamas especially,play in it,don't see what your problem is Hamas use the word genocide all the time.
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Nice workin, the idea is to stay relevant to just how Israel has committed itself to working against peace and that useless post had no relevance whatsoever, to say that a group "uses a word" would be tantamount to having the ability to flood threads with all sorts of trivial rubbish.
Hamas has done a damn sight more than Israel towards peace, the reconciliation agreement is self-evident of that. Their agreement to let Fatah and specifically Abbas lead foreign policy is a de facto recognition of Israel.
Criticism of their own lack of recognition are unfounded because Hamas is no longer a separate entity but a part of the PA which does recognize Israel, ask Abbas. Furthermore such criticism is hypocritical when Israel's own foreign minister favours an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians unto other lands. Which of course, though alarming, does not reflect Israel's general policy *officially*.
Hamas has done a damn sight more than Israel towards peace, the reconciliation agreement is self-evident of that. Their agreement to let Fatah and specifically Abbas lead foreign policy is a de facto recognition of Israel.
Criticism of their own lack of recognition are unfounded because Hamas is no longer a separate entity but a part of the PA which does recognize Israel, ask Abbas. Furthermore such criticism is hypocritical when Israel's own foreign minister favours an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians unto other lands. Which of course, though alarming, does not reflect Israel's general policy *officially*.
We'll see
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Like I said only a fool would not be able to comprehend that in the case of a political entity, the individual opinions does not shape its stated resolutions: Fatah will deal with Isreal -> Hamas is subservient to Fatah -> de facto recognition of Israel by Hamas
1 + 1 =2 Quite simple.
1 + 1 =2 Quite simple.
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Former Israeli soldiers break the silence on military violations | World news | guardian.co.uk
Video testimonies of ex-soldiers of the IDF including things such as the practice of human shields, the outlawed neighbor policy, and the dehumanization and degradation of the civilian Palestinian populace.
Video testimonies of ex-soldiers of the IDF including things such as the practice of human shields, the outlawed neighbor policy, and the dehumanization and degradation of the civilian Palestinian populace.
You mean only a fool would believe Hamas is going to be a silent partner,what a great Government thats going to be,one half supposedly corrupt and the other delusional.
Why don't you ask one i'm sure they would give you an answer,probably not one you would like though,as for the case being closed,obviously not,Israel will want recognition from the Hamas contingent and rightly so,they won't give it of course and the merry go round will continue.
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As I said, there is ZERO basis on Isreal's demand for Hamas' recognition of Isreal, the PA is the political entity of Palestinians and they have made it quite clear of their recognition of Israel.
Ask the foreign minister of Isreal for his recognition of Palestine and instead he will talk about favoring ethnic cleansing, but like I said only a Zionist would be so blind to this double standard and hypocrisy. It would likewise by futile and a waste of time for Mr. Lieberman to recognize Palestine he won't and it doesn't matter because he does not represent official Israeli policy (which still works on the premise of no Palestine anyway).
Ask the foreign minister of Isreal for his recognition of Palestine and instead he will talk about favoring ethnic cleansing, but like I said only a Zionist would be so blind to this double standard and hypocrisy. It would likewise by futile and a waste of time for Mr. Lieberman to recognize Palestine he won't and it doesn't matter because he does not represent official Israeli policy (which still works on the premise of no Palestine anyway).
Ethnic cleansing is horrid so i won't argue on that,i do think that Hamas could for once dosomething right,three little words are all it takes to remove an obstacle.
You say only a Zionist would be so blind to this double standard and hypocrisy,again ask one,question a Zionist about it,you may want to include the Freemasons,Rotary and Lions Clubs because as you know they are all part of the Zionist conspiracy
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The Zionists are not a conspiracy, it is a very clear ideology whose goals manifest themselves in Israel's foreign policy.You say only a Zionist would be so blind to this double standard and hypocrisy,again ask one,question a Zionist about it,you may want to include the Freemasons,Rotary and Lions Clubs because as you know they are all part of the Zionist conspiracy
Like I said you want Hamas to recognize Israel when there are high level Israeli politicians that do not do the same unto the Palestinians and like I said it ultimately does not matter as long as the statements of the two political entities leaves room for negotiation, then Israeli and Palestinian recognition is implicitly acknowledged.
Abbas has clearly maintained Israel's existence though the same can hardly be said for Israel which maintains the funding of its colonies, a complete undermining of Palestinian right to self-determination.