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Last thread about May 21 I plan on making...

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to explain after careful consideration my obsession with the end.
While I believe it all to be true, I find that I don't feel like I am going to be saved. It must be this grief that drives my need to obsess.

I suppose all my effort in talking about it was to somehow end up feeling like I was a saved person, but I don't think I feel like God loves me at this point in time:

Forgive me for all my banter.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
I also think my grief comes from being the only person I personally know that believes it all to be true, and everyone can be so casual about it. Which is my problem and I understand that, but it must be what keeps me around here.
 

Noaidi

slow walker
Just wanted to explain after careful consideration my obsession with the end.
While I believe it all to be true, I find that I don't feel like I am going to be saved. It must be this grief that drives my need to obsess.

I suppose all my effort in talking about it was to somehow end up feeling like I was a saved person, but I don't think I feel like God loves me at this point in time:

Forgive me for all my banter.

Mike, you seem really torn apart by this. It truly is worrying. Please don't forget that it was humans who have calculated this date, and is thus prone to error. Keep that in mind that it could be wrong.

Get through the next few weeks and when the day comes and nothing has happened, please turn your back on all this. Keep your faith by all means, but don't place it in the hands of a few scaremongers again.

I wish you well.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Mike, you seem really torn apart by this. It truly is worrying. Please don't forget that it was humans who have calculated this date, and is thus prone to error. Keep that in mind that it could be wrong.
I suspect that's supposed to be comforting, but it just makes it that much worse. If May 21st is wrong, Mike still has a lot of worrying ahead of him.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Just wanted to explain after careful consideration my obsession with the end.
While I believe it all to be true, I find that I don't feel like I am going to be saved. It must be this grief that drives my need to obsess.

I suppose all my effort in talking about it was to somehow end up feeling like I was a saved person, but I don't think I feel like God loves me at this point in time:

Forgive me for all my banter.

Don't sweat it Mike. I love you. That's far more important.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I suspect that's supposed to be comforting, but it just makes it that much worse. If May 21st is wrong, Mike still has a lot of worrying ahead of him.

At least he will be in good company of jaded like minded individuals. Misery loves company as it were.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Just wanted to explain after careful consideration my obsession with the end.
While I believe it all to be true, I find that I don't feel like I am going to be saved. It must be this grief that drives my need to obsess.

I suppose all my effort in talking about it was to somehow end up feeling like I was a saved person, but I don't think I feel like God loves me at this point in time:

Forgive me for all my banter.

Well, I don't know what's appropriate to say here. Just that your God doesn't seem very loving at all. And that it sucks you don't feel loveable.

I guess it would come as a relief then when the day goes by and nothing happens.
 

Cordoba

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to explain after careful consideration my obsession with the end.
While I believe it all to be true, I find that I don't feel like I am going to be saved. It must be this grief that drives my need to obsess.

I suppose all my effort in talking about it was to somehow end up feeling like I was a saved person, but I don't think I feel like God loves me at this point in time:

Forgive me for all my banter.

Hello Mike

My advice is if you really believe May 21st to be true (I personally don't) do your best in the next 4 weeks to be close to God, and do as many good deeds as you can

We've had many of these predictions before and nothing happened, but if you're convinced try to turn the "threat" into an "opportunity" by becoming a better person, and increasing prayers

Don't worry too much: God is Kind and Merciful
 

outhouse

Atheistically
many people have prophecized the end, and in every case they have been wrong. every single time they have been wrong. they have a %100 failure rate.


cheer up and move on with your life
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Perhaps your obsession with the end could be a shadow of the actual problem. A it of times depressed people can become obsessed with end-of-the-world ideas since its an unconscious desire to seek an ending of their own personal suffering. To be honest, this is how occultist have deceived many, even so-called level headed people. The belief that God will wisk you away to a blissful netherworld is an appealing idea. However sir what got me about your obsession is if you truly thought it was true, you would've discontinued your membership here to prepare for the end.

As for the feeling that you aren't saved, well you don't know. The best advice I can give you is number 1, be kind to all people. Be polite. Help people if possible. Most importantly be humble and respect powers greater than yourself. You are a decent person Mike but I will continue to say you still need help sir. The signs are there and I don't think most people on RF have the guts to tell you. I do hope one day you see that.
 

dmgdnooc

Active Member
Be at peace Mike; let not a long face to rule your heart.
Study to know the scriptures and look to God's righteousness.
And when the day has passed then kick up you feet, dance for joy and celebrate, God has given you an extension of time.
You still have an opportunity to walk in the light.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Perhaps your obsession with the end could be a shadow of the actual problem. A it of times depressed people can become obsessed with end-of-the-world ideas since its an unconscious desire to seek an ending of their own personal suffering. To be honest, this is how occultist have deceived many, even so-called level headed people. The belief that God will wisk you away to a blissful netherworld is an appealing idea. However sir what got me about your obsession is if you truly thought it was true, you would've discontinued your membership here to prepare for the end.

As for the feeling that you aren't saved, well you don't know. The best advice I can give you is number 1, be kind to all people. Be polite. Help people if possible. Most importantly be humble and respect powers greater than yourself. You are a decent person Mike but I will continue to say you still need help sir. The signs are there and I don't think most people on RF have the guts to tell you. I do hope one day you see that.

^
This.

Mike, Vendetta has hit the nail on the head. I also believe that you are struggling with some sort of emotional issue which is manifesting itself in this overwhelming idea that the world will end on May 21.

I would like to share something with you. When I was about 20 years old, I was going through a very stressful time of upheaval in my personal life. Somehow or another, I got the idea that I had committed "the unpardonable sin." Soon this idea began to torment me, grieve me, and within a few days I was actually unable to sleep. Hell literally lay before me, inescapable in my mind. I began to wonder just what a person is expected to do if hell is inescapable - do you just throw it all to the wind and live a hedonistic, crazy life because nothing really matters anymore? Or do you try to live as holy a life as possible, even with no hope, because in spite of your loss, you realize that's still the best option for everyone? How can you continue to love God when He's allowed you to lose all you held dear faith wise?

I became obsessed with this idea, and very distraught.

One morning, I woke up (as usual) with my bible under my pillow (I had begun sleeping like that a few weeks before because of my fears) and I was absolutely worn out because of lack of good, uninterrupted sleep. I began to cry as yet another hopeless day loomed before me. Exhausted, I stumbled into the other room, and looked outside across the woods outside my window. Beautiful pale rays of autumn sunlight pierced the mist which rose above the autumn leaves. As I watched, a deer delicately walked thru the field which was covered with sparkling dew.

In spite of my sorrow and anxiety, admiration for the beauty God's world rose up in my heart. Suddenly, these words flooded into my heart and mind: "I know your heart."

That was it. I realized that God knows my heart. He loves me, more than he loves even that deer, those beautiful woods, or the sun. He knows my deepest yearnings and my darkest fears and loves me anyway. He is perfectly holy, perfectly just, but He also loves me with a tender mercy.

A few years later, as I went through another difficult time, I sought medical help, and was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder. This disorder is not disruptive in my life on a daily basis - only when I become very stressed out does it manifest itself in unhealthy ways, though I recognize the tendencies are there always. Actually, if truth be known, I like that "edge" of the disorder - it creates a drive in me that helps me accomplish a lot professionally and personally. But - when I am very stressed out, the OCD tendencies can overwhelm me. That is when I need medication - a light daily dose of Luvox is what works for me - and I do not hesitate to seek medical treatment.

I believe that episode of spiritual angst was my first episode of OCD. Absolutely. God had never turned His back on me, and He had pity on my suffering while I was struggling.

Based on what I've read in this thread and your other one, I think you may be experiencing something along the same lines. I encourage you to seek the advice of a Christian psychologist.

Good luck, Mike. I will keep you in my prayers, brother.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
^
This.

Mike, Vendetta has hit the nail on the head. I also believe that you are struggling with some sort of emotional issue which is manifesting itself in this overwhelming idea that the world will end on May 21.

I would like to share something with you. When I was about 20 years old, I was going through a very stressful time of upheaval in my personal life. Somehow or another, I got the idea that I had committed "the unpardonable sin." Soon this idea began to torment me, grieve me, and within a few days I was actually unable to sleep. Hell literally lay before me, inescapable in my mind. I began to wonder just what a person is expected to do if hell is inescapable - do you just throw it all to the wind and live a hedonistic, crazy life because nothing really matters anymore? Or do you try to live as holy a life as possible, even with no hope, because in spite of your loss, you realize that's still the best option for everyone? How can you continue to love God when He's allowed you to lose all you held dear faith wise?

I became obsessed with this idea, and very distraught.

One morning, I woke up (as usual) with my bible under my pillow (I had begun sleeping like that a few weeks before because of my fears) and I was absolutely worn out because of lack of good, uninterrupted sleep. I began to cry as yet another hopeless day loomed before me. Exhausted, I stumbled into the other room, and looked outside across the woods outside my window. Beautiful pale rays of autumn sunlight pierced the mist which rose above the autumn leaves. As I watched, a deer delicately walked thru the field which was covered with sparkling dew.

In spite of my sorrow and anxiety, admiration for the beauty God's world rose up in my heart. Suddenly, these words flooded into my heart and mind: "I know your heart."

That was it. I realized that God knows my heart. He loves me, more than he loves even that deer, those beautiful woods, or the sun. He knows my deepest yearnings and my darkest fears and loves me anyway. He is perfectly holy, perfectly just, but He also loves me with a tender mercy.

A few years later, as I went through another difficult time, I sought medical help, and was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder. This disorder is not disruptive in my life on a daily basis - only when I become very stressed out does it manifest itself in unhealthy ways, though I recognize the tendencies are there always. Actually, if truth be known, I like that "edge" of the disorder - it creates a drive in me that helps me accomplish a lot professionally and personally. But - when I am very stressed out, the OCD tendencies can overwhelm me. That is when I need medication - a light daily dose of Luvox is what works for me - and I do not hesitate to seek medical treatment.

I believe that episode of spiritual angst was my first episode of OCD. Absolutely. God had never turned His back on me, and He had pity on my suffering while I was struggling.

Based on what I've read in this thread and your other one, I think you may be experiencing something along the same lines. I encourage you to seek the advice of a Christian psychologist.

Good luck, Mike. I will keep you in my prayers, brother.
I am glad you are better now. Your words have not fallen on deaf ears, nor has anyone else's words.
I am going through this for a reason, and I suppose very soon the reason will be apparent, at least I hope.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
Just wanted to explain after careful consideration my obsession with the end.
While I believe it all to be true, I find that I don't feel like I am going to be saved. It must be this grief that drives my need to obsess.

I suppose all my effort in talking about it was to somehow end up feeling like I was a saved person, but I don't think I feel like God loves me at this point in time:

Forgive me for all my banter.
Well if that's how you feel then it's time to abandon that religion and come on over to the "dark side"! Why bother worshipping if it's all in vain! Now just live your life and be happy like me!
 
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