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sorry i am a bit thick , i thought this was about babylon the great am i missing somethingorichalcum said:Yeah, because God was there for the Jews during world war 2, wasn't he?
Babylon has already fallen in the fact that she has no hold on Gods people in a spiritual sense , but she is yet to be destroyed , just as the bible tells us ,nothing can stop Jehovahs purpose from being fullfilled ,his king is directing things from the heavens and nothing can touch that kingdom as it is in heaven.(very exciting dont you think)orichalcum said:What I mean to say is that God will never lift his hand to help anyone ever again. So I don't seee how this Babylon is going to fall, that's all.
yes the ancient Babylon was the seat of all false religion as you say, that is why the babylon the great in the book of revelation is false religion today , i think i am right to say that it means confusion and that is what false religion has done it has confused peopletrue blood said:Babylon was a city built by Nimrod a long time ago. The name is the Greek form of Babel. Anyways Nimrod laid the foundation of a great city in which other mighty kings and empires would built upon. The name means "The Gate of God", and known as the birth of false religions. In the Bible, the languages of men were dished out due to a spiritual discord on a high level. Babylon represents every city, country and kingdom except the Christs'. The UN is a good example because its a large representation of the worlds different kingdoms. In revelations Christ is speaking of his return setting up his own kingdom as the old "Babylons" fall away.
How do you know? How can say that the prophecies therein are not meant for future generations...John of Patmos was dealing with the events in his own time and not writing a prophecy for people living 2000 years later.
If you want to go by 1st century understanding, you best include the Orthodox as well, because they were one entity at the time, it was one Catholic(universal) Church.It is the church of Rome.
According to you... you act as if your's is an end all interpretation. On the side, the Bible forbids personal interpretation of prohpecy...My interpretation of Revelation is based upon what Jesus and John have portrayed in this prophecy.
I agree with Revelations, but not with you... the two are not mutually inclusive...I am representing what the book is saying and thus the discussion should be whether someone disagrees with this book.
Much to learn you have... not at all.I sense that you are taking this a bit personal
I would love to know the truth of my Lord and Savior's revelation to John, I just have severe resevations about accepting the anti-Catholic propaganda you have decided is the truth... I didn't accept this stuff when I was a Southern Baptist and I'm not starting now without good reason...I know that a lot of people don't want to know the truth of John's writings because they would take it as a personal attack.
No, but interesting enough they persecuted other Pagans, the Jews, other Christian sects (that were accused of heresy), and as the reformation arose, Christians (Protestants and Catholics) began persecuting each other.michel said:Now the city of Rome, the Roman Catholic church, apostate Christianity, nor any modern world-wide church ever persecuted Old Testament prophets!