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Should the US attack Iran?

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arimoff

arimoff

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Panda said:
Israel =/= Jewish.
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Yes Israel=Jewish because somebody equals holocaust denial to Zionist regime even though not all Jews in the holocaust where Zionists but yet they are mentioned in the same context with whipping Israel out, so Jewish equals Israel.
the only Jewish state in the world.
 
arimoff

arimoff

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Panda said:
By claiming an attack on Israel is akin to the Holocaust seems to imply that. Though I would say it is wrong in more ways than just that.
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Yes, an attack with a nuclear bomb on Israel is another Holocaust there is no other way, the only way it is wrong is to say that whipping out the only Jewish state in the world is not holocaust. ( Jewish population in Israel by the way is almost 6,000,000)
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
xkatz

xkatz

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dust1n said:
Besides, have really that many American's died for control of Middle Eastern resources?
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Darkness

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Reptillian said:
We shouldn't attack Iran, the media makes them look crazy, but they're generally good people. I lived in an apartment with four other guys in college and we had an Iranian roomate for a semester...political science grad student...smart friendly guy...close to his family. However, now that I think about it, he did ask me all sorts of detailed questions about my nuclear engineering class. I never did figure out what happened to my textbook...!!! dun, dun, duuuun :p
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Whether consciously or unconsciously you are equating our foreign policy stance with some sort of xenophobia. I have no quarrels with the Iranian people. I love meeting people from all over the world. It is Iran's leaders that I have the moral problems with. I also think that most Americans do not have a problem with the Iranian population. The people I know, were cheering on the Green Revolution.
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
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LuisDantas said:
WW2 was the last hurrah of the delusion that military solutions were legitimate. It began under that assumption, and by the time it was ended people realized what a cruel joke the whole idea was.

I don't think the people of Europe saw it that way,it was a case of fight or die and i'm proud of my little countries part in the defeat of Nazism by military means which was the only solution.

But that is besides the point. Invading Iran might well avoid a nuclear threat from Iran. But it would be moot, because such an act would further ignite the ill will from so many people, and involve the US in yet another useless and unsustainable conflict. Trying the patience of those who want to believe that a nation that mongers war is not a warmongering nation is quite self-defeating.
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I don't think a full on invasion to be necessary and i agree it would be a bad idea based on lessons learned in Iraq and i do not believe that Iran would use a Nuclear weapon against Israel either,thats not the point of Nuclear capability,the point is they can.
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
England my lionheart said:
I don't think a full on invasion to be necessary and i agree it would be a bad idea based on lessons learned in Iraq and i do not believe that Iran would use a Nuclear weapon against Israel either,thats not the point of Nuclear capability,the point is they can.
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Yes a full invasion is ludicrous and anyone who advocates such is bordering on lunacy. I believe Israel will act unilaterally with western support all be it under the table.
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

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LittlePinky82 said:
Why? Because you don't like them? How would you like that if other countries, like oh say Germany or something, said that when the U.S. had George Bush as president and the republicans were in charge? We attacked two countries illegally and tortured people and everything. So plenty of reason's why another country could have attacked us and done the same thing you're suggesting with Iran if you think about it.
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I dislike the Iranian regime yes after all they Hang people and Kids like Christmas decorations just for being Gay,Apostate,Ba Hai etc,or stone people to death for various stupid reasons,maybe i'm just being picky eh.

There are some facts to be considered,Iran are already involved in conflict with Israel via supplying Hamas and the Brigades with weapons,Israel are an ally of the US,should Iran up the ante against Israel the US will have little choice but to attack Iran,this in turn would draw Irans allies Syria and Lebanon who have signed an arms treaty with Iran to enter the conflict.
In Amahdinejads and the Council of experts weird world, fighting Israel can bring on the end time when the Mahdi will return,scary stuff really,religious nutters and Nuclear weapons does'nt give one much hope.
 
Smoke

Smoke

Done here.
Sunstone said:
Should the US attack Iran? Why or why not?
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Jesus, no. Isn't it about time our leaders figured out there's more to foreign policy than trying to get people to agree to our invasions? Even if it were a good idea to invade Iran, we're too damned overextended from the two unnecessary military adventures we're in already. Add Iran to Iraq and Afghanistan, and you're talking about trying to control an area that's bigger, more populous, more religious, no more educated, and at least as violent as the eleven former Confederate states plus Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Ohio, and Indiana, and that at a time when our economy is in the toilet. It's insane.

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King Harold might have beat William the Conqueror at Hastings if he hadn't had to fight Harald Hardrada first, but you've got to recognize the limits of what's possible. King Harold didn't have a choice, but we did, and we still do. Stop the madness.
 
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Panda

Panda

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arimoff said:
Yes Israel=Jewish because somebody equals holocaust denial to Zionist regime even though not all Jews in the holocaust where Zionists but yet they are mentioned in the same context with whipping Israel out, so Jewish equals Israel.
the only Jewish state in the world.
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No it isn't. A country is not the same as an ethnic or religious group. There are plenty of non Jews that live in Israel and plenty of Jews that don't live in Israel.
 
Panda

Panda

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Premium Member
arimoff said:
Yes, an attack with a nuclear bomb on Israel is another Holocaust there is no other way, the only way it is wrong is to say that whipping out the only Jewish state in the world is not holocaust. ( Jewish population in Israel by the way is almost 6,000,000)
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How is that any different from any other country nuking any other country?
 
Panda

Panda

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I'm not trying to defend Iran here it just annoys me how lots of people seem to think the Israeli State and Jewish are the same thing.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Can I just say that starting a war to prevent a war is insane? Really, that's all I'm seeing from everyone who is saying "well, we really have no choice", or "it's inevitable". I'm sorry, but you've all gone stark raving mad.
 
sandandfoam

sandandfoam

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Alceste said:
Can I just say that starting a war to prevent a war is insane? Really, that's all I'm seeing from everyone who is saying "well, we really have no choice", or "it's inevitable". I'm sorry, but you've all gone stark raving mad.
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bonkers
 
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