Audie
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" knowledge" of a fistitious flood. Impressive.
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Does theism lead to immoral behaviour?
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" knowledge" of a fistitious flood. Impressive.
Audie
Veteran Member
Still waiting to hear about that there so called " wisdom".
Was it using a rock to cure snakebite,
where to place nails through your slaves,
or about beating children? Maybe the
part about beating people to death
with rocks.
Do tell, Im wanting some transcendent wisdom.
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Bible doesn't have the word Pi. And the dimension 10 is apparently outside diameter, including the edge of the "sea". And 30 is apparently the inside circumference. By these two dimension we an calculate that the thickness of the edge was about 0,71. So, no, Bible doesn't have an error in this.
No one has demonstrated it to be wrong.
Audie
Veteran Member
Doesn't say Pi...well that makes all the difference
doesn't it? It does not say 1+1=2 either. So there.
That sure proves, what?
You just made it up where the (inaccurate)
measurements would have been made.
Religionists must be the most dishonest
people in the world. Making things up.
But that little whopper is nothing compared
to the world wide flood.
Religionists have been preching and teaching
that big far lie all over the world without
the least show of conscience.
Do you know of a bigger more dedicated group of fibbers?
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Audie
Veteran Member
And you have the nerve to characterize atheists as dishonest.
That's not true. If you want to get into this more, we can. Do you?
In any case, it seems like you've cleared things up for me: the reasons you consider the Bible reliable aren't anything that I would consider compelling.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Nobody has proved that leprechauns don't exist either. So should we believe in leprechauns?
Audie
Veteran Member
Except "flood" has been disproved
more ways than you could count.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yep!
Why should we? I don't have any reason to say you should believe anything. You can freely choose not to believe. I don't think it is a problem. Bible tells eternal life is for righteous. So, if there is a problem, it is unrighteousness, not disbelief.
I don't think you can provide any reasonable argument against the Bible story, but I am not against you trying it.
Audie
Veteran Member
Noye how you say "choose" as if what is
real is a matter of choice.
In enjoying fiction we do what's called
" willing suspension of disbelief".
Bur the key is knowing when yiu are doing
it, not choosing instead to settle into
permanent self deception. Which is what
" choosing ro believe" is.
.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I'm trying to demonstrate to you how the burden of proof works. We don't believe in every single thing just because nobody has proved it wrong. If we did that, we'd be believing in all sorts of untrue things, like the existence of leprechauns. That's why we demonstrate something actually exists before we believe in it.
At least, if we're being rational.
So your point that "well it hasn't been shown to be false" isn't really a point in your favour at all, and it doesn't make your belief true until someone demonstrates that it isn't. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim - not the other way around.
Audie
Veteran Member
IOW, an inept and useless annargument
for something. But, good enuf for some.
like politicians, media and that all species evolved from single species even though it is based on claims that can't be demonstrated to be true....
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
...all species evolved from single species even though it is based on claims that can't be demonstrated to be true....
There is plenty of evidence demonstrating the evolution of life.
Audie
Veteran Member
Which "claims" are those?like politicians, media and that all species evolved from single species even though it is based on claims that can't be demonstrated to be true....
Or are you just saying things to be cute?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I don't know what you're talking about here, exactly, but evolution is a demonstrably true fact of life.like politicians, media and that all species evolved from single species even though it is based on claims that can't be demonstrated to be true....
The point is, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. We don't believe things until people prove them wrong. It's the other way around. So when you say "nobody has disproven the Noah's ark story" for example, you're not really saying much of anything. It's not an argument in favour of anything. I mean, nobody has disproven the existence of Thor, so you must believe that Thor exists, right? Or, probably not, right?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
In a very limited sense you can prove a negative, but that is only for formal thinking as per e.g. 2+2=5.