@dybmh,
@Soapy, and to all.
here is something for you to chew on in our discussion concerning the Garden. physical or Spiritual in Nature. and a revelation on the Godhead.
in reading the book of ACTS again, Acts 4:8 "Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel," Acts 4:9 "If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;" Acts 4:10 "Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole." Acts 4:11 "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner." Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
on the Godhead soapy
This is not the Apostles words but God words through his apostle Peter. The address is from God, the Lord Jesus. LISTEN CAREFULLY, for this is IMPORTANT. while addressing the elders, and chief priest, my mind went back to what the Lord Jesus said.
Matthew 10:16 "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Matthew 10:17 "But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;" Matthew 10:18 "And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles." Matthew 10:19 "But when they deliver you up,
take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak." Matthew 10:20 "
For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you."
BREAKDOWN: Matthew 10:20 "For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of
your Father which speaketh in you."
When the Lord Jesus said “MY” Father, and we say “MY” Father, we are not speaking biological, but metaphorically, (Spiritual). of (First and Last). let 101G put in an Example. if I speak of Earthly thing, then one can understand the Heavenly THINGS, Right. Now a EARTHLY THING. question, “are you before your earthly Father in flesh?" NO. Then you’re the Son, or the Last, or AFTER your earthly father. Correct….. but was not the Lord Jesus, the Ordinal Last, in flesh first, before his Father the Ordinal First who is Spirit? are we so sure? this question open up something for us to consider. His Father, (himself, the Ordinal First), was in Glorified Flesh in the Garden. How do you know this 101G. Genesis 3:8 "And they
heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the
presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden." Genesis 3:9 "And the LORD God
called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?"
dybmh, on the spiritually on the Garden.
first, how do one HEAR God's "VOICE", especially God's....... who is a Spirit, but no one supposed to have heard God voice?
second, How can one hear God "WALKING", again who is a Spirit.
third, how can one "SEE" God FACE, for the Hebrew term PRESENCE means "FACE",
Presence: H6440 פָּנִים paniym (paw-neem') n-m.
פָּנֶה paneh (paw-neh') [singular (but always as plural) of an unused noun]
1. the face (as the part that turns).
2. (with prepositional prefix, as a preposition) before, etc.
{used in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively}
[from H6437]
KJV: + accept, a-(be-)fore(-time), against, anger, X as (long as), at, + battle, + because (of), + beseech, countenance, edge, + employ, endure, + enquire, face, favour, fear of, for, forefront(-part), form(-er time, -ward), from, front, heaviness, X him(-self), + honourable, + impudent, + in, it, look(-eth) (-s), X me, + meet, X more than, mouth, of, off, (of) old (time), X on, open, + out of, over against, the partial,
person, + please, presence, prospect, was purposed, by reason of, + regard, right forth, + serve, X shewbread, sight, state, straight, + street, X thee, X them(-selves), through (+ - out), till, time(-s) past, (un-)to(-ward), + upon, upside (+ down), with(- in, + -stand), X ye, X you.
Root(s): H6437
now, 101G have a suggestion, a way, not saying this is the ONLY ANSWER, or way. but so far, this could only take place if ADAM was in spirit form of manifestation, before he fell into sin, and self-consciousness.
the reason why 101G say this is this. the Lord Jesus upon Resurrection the Lord Jesus had flesh and bone. Luke 24:36 "And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you." Luke 24:37 "But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit." Luke 24:38 "And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?"m Luke 24:39 "
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
but notice, the Lord said, he had flesh and bone, but no BLOOD in the resurrected state. now this, Genesis 2:21 "And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;" Genesis 2:22 "And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man." Genesis 2:23 "And Adam said, This is now
bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."
well a question, WHERE IS THE BLOOD? ..... BLOOD OF MY BLOOD?
blood was given for the life of the "NATURAL" flesh in a sinful state, and not in a glorified body, or a spiritual State, which is the body to come. supportive scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:50 "Now this I say, brethren,
that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."
note, flesh and
BLOOD cannot inherit the kingdom of God, but flesh and bone can.
101G.