Anti-trans bill passes in Kentucky

[Shadow Wolf]

Circumcision is even more wrong because it serves no legitimate medical purpose and its victims have no voice. Your silly superstitious beliefs change nothing.

Actually there are some emergencies where it is necessary. These things, however, are rare.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Keisha Michaels told audiences about the difference it made when she and her family began to support her transgender child: “She literally lit up, she woke up

That happens a lot. I say myself, but I can assure you it's many of us, it shocks me seeing old pictures of me and seeing how dead I look. There was no spark or life in my life, with my old pictures reflecting either a very deep anger from suffering other people (especially seen in my high school pictures) or a very deep pain from a deeply rooted agony and misery from struggling with being trans.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That happens a lot. I say myself, but I can assure you it's many of us, it shocks me seeing old pictures of me and seeing how dead I look. There was no spark or life in my life, with my old pictures reflecting either a very deep anger from suffering other people (especially seen in my high school pictures) or a very deep pain from a deeply rooted agony and misery from struggling with being trans.

That's exactly why I shared that, and I think that you sharing helps a lot too. As difficult as it probably is for you.
I don't think anyone should have to live like that, especially just because some ignorant politicians think they can gain brownie points by banning care that actually helps people live more fulfilling lives. It sickens me.

 

[JDMS]

And we have your usual strawman. No one is advocating sexual reassignment surgery for children.

Yep. The "sex reassignment surgery for kids" strawman, and the "genitals are used for sex, thus anything related to genitals must be sexual" argument.

As if genitals aren't present on our bodies from birth, regardless of sexual engagement... lol. Are people forgetting that a penis is used to take a ****, and the urethral opening is within the labia?

 

[metis]

<yawn> cheap attempt to change the subject. "Sexual reassignment" surgery for children is wrong.

And is extremely rare.

So, is it supposedly the government's role to take over control from the parents and determine what is to be done with the teen? Would you turn your kids' care over to the government?

BTW, hormone suppression is not "sexual reassignment" as it is sometime done so as to buy time so the teen can later make a decision as a young adult.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's exactly why I shared that, and I think that you sharing helps a lot too. As difficult as it probably is for you.
I don't think anyone should have to live like that, especially just because some ignorant politicians think they can gain brownie points by banning care that actually helps people live more fulfilling lives. It sickens me.

Yup. They have no idea how much needless suffering their wants will inflict, and they don't care. They have their destructive ignorance and call it common sense and carry on in their crusade against whatever the pulpit tells them to hate.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

And is extremely rare.

So, is it supposedly the government's role to take over control from the parents and determine what is to be done with the teen? Would you turn your kids' care over to the government?

BTW, hormone suppression is not "sexual reassignment" as it is sometime done so as to buy time so the teen can later make a decision as a young adult.

Yep. And puberty blockers were developed for and used by cis gender kids like me whose period started too soon (8.) Using puberty blockers to treat symptoms of gender dysphoria is no different than using it for body dysmophia or early onset puberty. But these conservatives education is so bad that all they hear about is this imagined conspiracy of childhood sex reassignment.

 

[Shaul]

What's the point, if you won't even bother explaining why or how you think kids are being sexualized?

Destroying the genitalia of children is a form of them being sexualized. That doesn't require an explanation. If you think it does, that is just you.

 

[Shaul]

Circumcision is even more wrong because it serves no legitimate medical purpose and its victims have no voice. Your silly superstitious beliefs change nothing.

Irrelevant to the issue of trying to justify sexual surgery on children for "sexual reassignment".

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If you think it does, that is just you.

No, it's all and entirely you as none of that makes any sense, especially the way you insist it is sexualized.

 

[Shaul]

Unless you include circumcision, you're statement is invalid.

The topic is sexual reassignment surgery, not circumcision.

 

[Shaul]

And is extremely rare.

So, is it supposedly the government's role to take over control from the parents and determine what is to be done with the teen? Would you turn your kids' care over to the government?

BTW, hormone suppression is not "sexual reassignment" as it is sometime done so as to buy time so the teen can later make a decision as a young adult.

Sexual mutilation is destructive whether done chemically or surgically. Stop trying to justify sexual mutilation of children.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Trying to overlap phenotypic/gonadal sex and references to it with erogenic sex is just the sort of brain rot that would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Dr: "I've assigned your child the female sex at birth."
Confused conservative: "Why are you sexualizing my child?!"

 

[Shaul]

Trying to overlap phenotypic/gonadal sex and references to it with erogenic sex is just the sort of brain rot that would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Dr: "I've assigned your child the female sex at birth."
Confused conservative: "Why are you sexualizing my child?!"

Doctors don't assign sex, biology does.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Doctors don't assign sex, biology does.

Sex assignment is literally medical/legal documentation service doctors preform. Written as 'assigned (x) at birth by (y doctor) at (z) institution.'

And are sometimes wrong because genotype and gonadal sex often don't align, doctors don't look at genotype, and because gender and sex are not interchangeable terms.

 

[dybmh]

@Shadow Wolf ,

I recall you mentioned something about the transition process. I don't remember the wording you used. Guided and unrushed? I'm trying to find info on this. Specifically some sort of regulation that would slow down the process to ensure minors aren't rushing into it? I'm actually seeing the opposite, that the goal of gender affirming care is to remove any delay, remove any obstacle.

If you can direct me to some info on this, I would very much appreciate it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

@Shadow Wolf ,

I recall you mentioned something about the transition process. I don't remember the wording you used. Guided and unrushed? I'm trying to find info on this. Specifically some sort of regulation that would slow down the process to ensure minors aren't rushing into it? I'm actually seeing the opposite, that the goal of gender affirming care is to remove any delay, remove any obstacle.

If you can direct me to some info on this, I would very much appreciate it.

It's all here, but in a nutshell it takes time of adjusting, being treated, being seen by professionals, and you must live full time as your identified sex for no less than one year before being eligible for genital surgery.

Standards of Care - WPATH World Professional Association for Transgender Health

The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, interdisciplinary professional and educational organization devoted to transgender health.

www.wpath.org

 

[dybmh]

It's all here, but in a nutshell it takes time of adjusting, being treated, being seen by professionals, and you must live full time as your identified sex for no less than one year before being eligible for genital surgery.

Standards of Care - WPATH World Professional Association for Transgender Health

The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, interdisciplinary professional and educational organization devoted to transgender health.

www.wpath.org

Thank you very kindly

 

[We Never Know]

It's all here, but in a nutshell it takes time of adjusting, being treated, being seen by professionals, and you must live full time as your identified sex for no less than one year before being eligible for genital surgery.

Standards of Care - WPATH World Professional Association for Transgender Health

The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, interdisciplinary professional and educational organization devoted to transgender health.

www.wpath.org

How does a boy at age 5, 7 or etc know what it feels like to be female or know how a female identifies?
How is that different than someone saying they feel or identify as a cat for example?

 

[JDMS]

How does a boy at age 5, 7 or etc know what it feels like to be female or know how a female identifies?
How is that different than someone saying they feel or identify as a cat for example?

I'd like to see you play Devil's advocate and try to see if you can come up with any ways that a human male might be able to understand what a human female feels and experiences. Particularly, ways that are not possible for a cat. I want to see if you can think of anything. I have a few pointers if you can't. But I'd like to understand your thought process.