Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Another words, it's still a mess and no one really knows the proper solution.
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Anti-trans bill passes in Kentucky
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
By you. Are you an expert in the field?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What is it then? You don't take surgical and hormonal means to not 'correct' something, so something is obviously being viewed as being defective, as far as I'm concerned.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Have you considered that your view can cause harm?
Let me explain it using me. I am in everyday words to some people crazy. Thus some people try to correct me because I am a defect, but how they try to correct me, causes me harm. But in another sense then I am not a defect, I am just not neuro typical.
The problem is that being defective can be applied to everybody including you the way it appears you use it.
It is about sex. Sex in the sense of a totality, not just the physical act. The fact that children experience physical pleasure sensations from stimulation is irrelevant to justifying adults surgically mutilating their genitalia. Allowing morally bankrupt "adults" from destroying a child's genitals doesn't promote their ability to "give pleasure to themselves". It is beyond vulgar for you to try to use childhood masturbation to justify medically destroying their genitals.
Leave the kids alone!
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Your misunderstanding it.
I'm not saying the person is a defect, but there is something defective going on within that person givin the conflict with the mind and the body.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But that is not all that being trans is about. And even then when is a child a child?
That's a lot of sophistry and verbosity that doesn't negate what I wrote whatsoever. Biology does determine sex.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, you want the government to make such a decision for the teen, thus not the teen, the parents, and the doctor, right?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, but how to handle that is maybe not that simple as you would make that out to be.
Again I will use me.
I have a conflict in my mind/brain and thus as a part of my body.
There are several ways of dealing with that not just for me as me. Some of them involve how you treat me.
Do you understand it now?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But there is not just two hardcore distinct sexes. And everything is not just biological sexes.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It appears to be a natural variation.
Still spewing strawman arguments I see.
The topic has not been sex change surgery in minors. But hypocritically I see that you seem to support genital mutilation.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, there is no variation. There is always just black and white and thus I am always right and you are thus wrong if different.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That's crazy talk!!No, there is no variation. There is always just black and white and thus I am always right and you are thus wrong if different.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That's crazy talk!!
To be honest. Because I am crazy, but somewhat high functioning as crazy, I can sometimes spot limited low level crazy in normal people. But that don't make them wrong or any of that. Just that they haven't noticed for what ever reason that is relevant to them.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Well I am not crazy at all. Perfectly 100% sane. And my neighbors truly appreciate when I tell them what they are doing wrong.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It's not just me though. There are several other posters asking you the same thing.
So circumcision is sexual in nature?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Well for starters, a cat is not a human.
Doesn't change what I wrote either, doctors practice sex assignment.
Just to recontextualize this a moment, The vast majority of gender affirming care is done by cis people, not trans people. 'Correcting' the mismatch between their expectations of how their body should match their expectations of gender.
When a teen boy gets surgery to correct asymptomatic gynecomastia, it's gender affirming care.
When a teen girl takes estrogen to correct unwanted facial hair, that's also gender affirming care.
The important thing to remember is that even though the mismatch is a defect they want to correct, that doesn't make them defective *people,* which has entirely other negative connotations. The defect isn't in their personhood.
This is also important to remember when talking about disabled people. The difference between you have a disability and you are a disability.