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overcoming pride?
- Thread starter Eddi
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nPeace
Veteran Member
Galatians 5:16-25
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is a binary. Maybe it is too much pride - realistic combination - too much humility.
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Nothing wrong with pride, just arrogance.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
By having pride that your humble.
I believe so. It takes a change of mindset and some effort, but many people have done it and so can you if you really put your mind to it.
People who are very proud tend to be full of themselves and short sided. They are unpleasant to others, always ready to point faults without looking at the mirror first, and very quick to criticize. Who wants to hang out with someone like that?
Humility on the other hand, provides great benefits. If you are humble, your understand your limitations and appreciate the opportunity to learn from others. When you can teach others, it's not for your own benefit but because you want to do something positive for other people, which makes you a much better human being than someone who's only looking for their own advantage.
In Proverbs 16:18 the Bible warns against pride. It says "Pride is before a crash and a haughty spirit before stumbling". Yes, pride can definitely makes us "stumble".
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I've heard that regular visits to a cemetary cultivate humility.
OK, how can one overcome arrogance?
WalterTrull
Godfella
We see Him in His children. When we do, we call it love. I find true love to be quite humbling.
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Understanding that every human is skilled in one thing and flawed in another, we all have our different strengths and weaknesses.
This sounds like a theological question based in a religious understanding of what pride is. In my days in Christianity, it meant thinking independently, and was equated with rebellion, arrogance, hedonism, attempts to escape accountability, wanting to make oneself God, and the like - nothing approved of, all moral failings.
I use the word to refer the justified feeling one has when he or others he cares about achieve goals.
Are these antithetical? What are you really asking about? I'll be you're already humble by my standards. Christianity seems to conflate meekness and humility. When I was a Christian, humility meant not asserting oneself, which to me is meekness when one's will falls below a certain threshold and he fails to assert himself where he should.
Again, what are you calling arrogance? An overinflated sense of one's abilities? That's not a moral failing even if one suffers from it - just bad manners that are off putting to some and that will drive some people away - and I doubt you do.
I think that all of these words have a different meaning to you than me. As I said, and based in my experience as a Christian, when a Christian asks such questions, they're really talking about submission, and the substitution of a received set of living instructions for one's own free will - nothing like what I'm talking about when I use those words.
Contemplation and meditation on the not-self characteristic:
Form is not self
Feeling is not self
Perception is not self
Determinations are not self
Consciousness is not self
All are transitory and impermanent, subject to change, and cause suffering, so are not-self.
Anatta-lakkhana Sutta: The Discourse on the Not-self Characteristic
I'm basically going along with the ideas already expressed but will add a bit.
Living life is a great way to overcome arrogance especially being married as long as we want to overcome it which takes some emotional maturity to see ourselves as others see us.
Living life is a great way to overcome arrogance especially being married as long as we want to overcome it which takes some emotional maturity to see ourselves as others see us.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Start a competitive sport. It doesn't have to be physical, in fact Chess or GO might be even better. You will be humiliated.
Step 1: Stop thinking about yourself.
Step 2: Seriously, stop thinking about yourself.
In my honest opinion.
Nope. Hasn't worked for me.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Arrogance, esp. spiritual arrogance is the biggest obstacle in spiritual life
How might one overcome spiritual arrogance?