The lady of heaven movie and Sunni protests

[England my lionheart]

Those helped by Fatima (a) and Ali (a) would never support, watch, or fund this film. Those controlled by devils, that's a different story.

But wouldn’t it be easier to not watch it,all the protests have achieved is promote the movie which is pretty dire anyway,this happened with “god save the Queen” by the Sex pistols,the BBC banned it and it shot up the charts.

 

[England my lionheart]

This is a badly produced movie with a 15 million dollar budget but today it actually became quite famous. I was honestly waiting to see someone bring it up because it was inevitable. I think it was the protests that made it so famous. The actors are pretty meagre in my opinion and the production is not very good. So the Sunni protests helped the Shii director famous, and they helped promoting the film immensely. Almost every single person I have come across speaking about this movie got to know about it because the protests were discussed in the media. So the Shii director should be happy.

Mind you, Shii ayatollah's have condemned the movie because of it's instigation.

I don't agree with the protests because all it did was to promote the movie. But I am no analyst in that so maybe it has done some good. This is my personal feeling that protests like this are just useless. It's like playing the game someone started like an idiot.

Have you seen the movie? Think about it. There are some historical figures who Shii's consider as political enemies. Why do you think they hired black actors for the enemies? Does the colour of skin depict good guys and bad guys? This is the dirty mentality of the producer. This is demonising the black skin. But you should see Ali in that. White skin, graceful, dresses like an angel. But see, they are all from the same tribe. How could the good guy be white, and the bad guys be black?

Why have they equated their so called early black dirty guys equated to the ISIS?

When you watch it it's easily seen that they are intentionally instigating trouble. On purpose. Lets say someone made a movie about the holocaust and they are "holocaust deniers"? How would the government respond? How will people respond? But when it comes to Muslims, anything is fine.

Sad. Cheap and hypocritical.

I have seen some of the movie,it is pretty dire and the critics agree and yes all the protests have achieved is promoting the movie,the same happened with “The last temptation of Christ” although the acting of the movie was top notch it caused the petrol bombing of a cinema in france and disapproval from the Vatican.

Everybody has a right to demonstrate but a cinema not being able to screen a movie for fear of violence is unacceptable whatever the movie is about.

 

[firedragon]

Everybody has a right to demonstrate but a cinema not being able to screen a movie for fear of violence is unacceptable whatever the movie is about.

Thats absolutely correct.

 

[firedragon]

@England my lionheart

In all fairness, no cinema should be in a position to stop airing any damn movie in fear of their staff risk. But, that was their decision, and no violence has occurred in cinemas that are airing the movie. So maybe their decision is completely their baby, and maybe even a simpletons move. Can someone blame their sentiments on the protestors? That's a whole different question. In my opinion. By the way, it's a ****ty movie mate. I watched it. Forget the politics and the racism towards blacks in it, its just bad production. I don't know what they did with the 15 million budget.

 

[Clara Tea]

Cine world in the uk has scrapped plans to screen “The lady of heaven” because of Sunni Muslim protests outside of cinemas for fear of violence on their staff,imo it’s even more reason to screen it.,we should stand up for our freedoms.


The film claims to tell the story of Lady Fatima, the daughter of Prophet Muhammad.

The Supreme Ulema Council said the movie was a "flagrant falsification of the established facts" of Islam.

There have been protests against the film in the UK. Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq have also denounced it.

The council accused the film of "loathsome partiality" and accused the filmmakers of seeking "fame and sensationalism" and "hurting the feelings of Muslims and stirring up religious sensitivities", according to Moroccan state media.

The BBC's Religion Editor, Aleem Maqbool, says the criticism centres on the the way the Shia Muslim film-maker and cleric, Yasser Al-Habib, has portrayed prominent revered figures in early Sunni Islam, implying that there are comparisons between their actions with those of the Islamic State group in Iraq.

The film's producer Malik Shlibak has lambasted those who want the film banned on his social media, describing it as bigotry and telling them if they did not like the film they should not watch it, as opposed to censoring it.

The Lady of Heaven film: Morocco bans ‘blasphemous’ British film

Most Muslims who post about terrorism, claim that the Muslim religion is peaceful. They claim that the terrorists are not real Muslims. If not, then it seems that the Muslim religion is filled with imitation Muslims.

 

[Clara Tea]

@England my lionheart

In all fairness, no cinema should be in a position to stop airing any damn movie in fear of their staff risk. But, that was their decision, and no violence has occurred in cinemas that are airing the movie. So maybe their decision is completely their baby, and maybe even a simpletons move. Can someone blame their sentiments on the protestors? That's a whole different question. In my opinion. By the way, it's a ****ty movie mate. I watched it. Forget the politics and the racism towards blacks in it, its just bad production. I don't know what they did with the 15 million budget.

Mel Gibson made a movie about the apparently false assertion that Jews killed Jesus. That could have started a riot or resulted in loss of life or property of Jews. Under those conditions, I think that it would be a good idea to ban the movie.

The Supreme Court (of the US) ruled that neonazis, dressed in full Nazi outfits, could march down the streets of Skokie, Illinois (a predominently Jewish neighborhood). The idea was that Jews had the right to speak out against bigotry. But, with the cancel culture, and private ownership of websites, I don't think that speech is very free anymore.

 

[England my lionheart]

@England my lionheart

In all fairness, no cinema should be in a position to stop airing any damn movie in fear of their staff risk. But, that was their decision, and no violence has occurred in cinemas that are airing the movie. So maybe their decision is completely their baby, and maybe even a simpletons move. Can someone blame their sentiments on the protestors? That's a whole different question. In my opinion. By the way, it's a ****ty movie mate. I watched it. Forget the politics and the racism towards blacks in it, its just bad production. I don't know what they did with the 15 million budget.

A true rotten tomato,maybe the cinema jumped the gun and wrong to suppose violence because of who the protesters were but unfortunately that is how paranoid the worlds become.

 

[firedragon]

Mel Gibson made a movie about the apparently false assertion that Jews killed Jesus. That could have started a riot or resulted in loss of life or property of Jews. Under those conditions, I think that it would be a good idea to ban the movie.

Absolutely poles apart. Try not to make such assertions about something you have not looked into properly.

 

[England my lionheart]

Most Muslims who post about terrorism, claim that the Muslim religion is peaceful. They claim that the terrorists are not real Muslims. If not, then it seems that the Muslim religion is filled with imitation Muslims.

The well used “no true Scotsman” fallacy.

 

[firedragon]

A true rotten tomato,maybe the cinema jumped the gun and wrong to suppose violence because of who the protesters were but unfortunately that is how paranoid the worlds become.

Maybe they jumped the gun, maybe they really wanted to protect their staff and took a preemptive stance which is good. I don't know. I'm just making some personal opinion. What I do know is that there has not been any violence YET. But you know, you never know.

But you know what I can definitely tell you? I can say with confidence that this movie, and the protestors, and the interview that went viral that included the producer and one of the leaders in the protests, there were plenty of channels opened automatically for dialogue between Sunni's and Shii's in England and even in some Arab countries. So I highly doubt that this movie achieved a divide, but rather more unity.

 

[England my lionheart]

Mel Gibson made a movie about the apparently false assertion that Jews killed Jesus. That could have started a riot or resulted in loss of life or property of Jews. Under those conditions, I think that it would be a good idea to ban the movie.

The Supreme Court (of the US) ruled that neonazis, dressed in full Nazi outfits, could march down the streets of Skokie, Illinois (a predominently Jewish neighborhood). The idea was that Jews had the right to speak out against bigotry. But, with the cancel culture, and private ownership of websites, I don't think that speech is very free anymore.

Unless a movie promotes the use of violence against a specific group I don’t see a problem.

Stanley Kubrick famously banned his own movie “A Clockwork Orange” in the UK because of copycat gangs,too late though because football hooligans did exactly that,wore the costumes and bowler hats and even spoke the slang from the movie,sometimes banning ends up promoting the very thing you wish to ban.

 

[England my lionheart]

Maybe they jumped the gun, maybe they really wanted to protect their staff and took a preemptive stance which is good. I don't know. I'm just making some personal opinion. What I do know is that there has not been any violence YET. But you know, you never know.

But you know what I can definitely tell you? I can say with confidence that this movie, and the protestors, and the interview that went viral that included the producer and one of the leaders in the protests, there were plenty of channels opened automatically for dialogue between Sunni's and Shii's in England and even in some Arab countries. So I highly doubt that this movie achieved a divide, but rather more unity.

From what I’ve read I would agree.

 

[firedragon]

Most Muslims who post about terrorism, claim that the Muslim religion is peaceful. They claim that the terrorists are not real Muslims. If not, then it seems that the Muslim religion is filled with imitation Muslims.

The same way most Christians would say hitler was no true Christian. Or Pirabhakaran was no true christian, the man who ran the most dangerous terrorist group in the world, had the most number of suicide assassinations and attacks, tried to invade Maldives, assassinated the prime minister of India, and "INVENTED" the suicide belt.

Or are you saying these people are "TRUE CHRISTIANS"?

If not, you are being a hypocrite. Muslims bad for saying A, Christians OK for saying A. Or do you hold the same standard for both saying both of these monsters are true christians?

 

[Altfish]

Cine world in the uk has scrapped plans to screen “The lady of heaven” because of Sunni Muslim protests outside of cinemas for fear of violence on their staff,imo it’s even more reason to screen it.,we should stand up for our freedoms.


The film claims to tell the story of Lady Fatima, the daughter of Prophet Muhammad.

The Supreme Ulema Council said the movie was a "flagrant falsification of the established facts" of Islam.

There have been protests against the film in the UK. Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq have also denounced it.

The council accused the film of "loathsome partiality" and accused the filmmakers of seeking "fame and sensationalism" and "hurting the feelings of Muslims and stirring up religious sensitivities", according to Moroccan state media.

The BBC's Religion Editor, Aleem Maqbool, says the criticism centres on the the way the Shia Muslim film-maker and cleric, Yasser Al-Habib, has portrayed prominent revered figures in early Sunni Islam, implying that there are comparisons between their actions with those of the Islamic State group in Iraq.

The film's producer Malik Shlibak has lambasted those who want the film banned on his social media, describing it as bigotry and telling them if they did not like the film they should not watch it, as opposed to censoring it.

The Lady of Heaven film: Morocco bans ‘blasphemous’ British film

Protests like these always backfire, they just act as great publicity.

Monty Python's Life Of Brian was banned in Wigan, the cinema's in Warrington (about 10-miles away) were packed.

 

[Altfish]

The same way most Christians would say hitler was no true Christian. Or Pirabhakaran was no true christian, the man who ran the most dangerous terrorist group in the world, had the most number of suicide assassinations and attacks, tried to invade Maldives, assassinated the prime minister of India, and "INVENTED" the suicide belt.

Or are you saying these people are "TRUE CHRISTIANS"?

If not, you are being a hypocrite. Muslims bad for saying A, Christians OK for saying A. Or do you hold the same standard for both saying both of these monsters are true christians?

Do you remember Monty Python's Life of Brian? Many UK towns banned that after Christian protests

 

[firedragon]

Do you remember Monty Python's Life of Brian? Many UK towns banned that after Christian protests

Altfish, many movies has been banned all over the world for various reasons. A movie was banned in India because a Muslim girl marries a Hindu man and they make two children. A movie called Hail Mary was banned and even the pope got involved providing his own critique of the movie. It was about mother Mary.

But no no. The topic has to turn into a muslim hypocrisy by bringing in terrorists and that they are truly "Muslim".

Unbelievable hypocrisy.

 

[Altfish]

Altfish, many movies has been banned all over the world for various reasons. A movie was banned in India because a Muslim girl marries a Hindu man and they make two children. A movie called Hail Mary was banned and even the pope got involved providing his own critique of the movie. It was about mother Mary.

But no no. The topic has to turn into a muslim hypocrisy by bringing in terrorists and that they are truly "Muslim".

Unbelievable hypocrisy.

I never said anything of the sort.
I do not agree with the ban on the basis of freedom of speech but terrorism was not mentioned by me.

 

[firedragon]

I never said anything of the sort.

I didn't say you said any of that Altfish. It was my response to such a post that you replied to.

 

[BrightShadow]

Cine world in the uk has scrapped plans to screen “The lady of heaven” because of Sunni Muslim protests outside of cinemas for fear of violence on their staff,imo it’s even more reason to screen it.,we should stand up for our freedoms.


The film claims to tell the story of Lady Fatima, the daughter of Prophet Muhammad.

The Supreme Ulema Council said the movie was a "flagrant falsification of the established facts" of Islam.

There have been protests against the film in the UK. Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq have also denounced it.

The council accused the film of "loathsome partiality" and accused the filmmakers of seeking "fame and sensationalism" and "hurting the feelings of Muslims and stirring up religious sensitivities", according to Moroccan state media.

The BBC's Religion Editor, Aleem Maqbool, says the criticism centres on the the way the Shia Muslim film-maker and cleric, Yasser Al-Habib, has portrayed prominent revered figures in early Sunni Islam, implying that there are comparisons between their actions with those of the Islamic State group in Iraq.

The film's producer Malik Shlibak has lambasted those who want the film banned on his social media, describing it as bigotry and telling them if they did not like the film they should not watch it, as opposed to censoring it.

The Lady of Heaven film: Morocco bans ‘blasphemous’ British film

Some people are on a mission to destroy the reputation of a said religion or a said religious figure. When it is obvious what they are up to - they should be discouraged but of course in a civilized way. Problem is - in many cases negative publicity makes them and their controversial deed even more famous and subsequently the problem only skyrockets.
Every religion have some biased critics who (for whatever personal reason) make it a mission in their life to work against that said religion in every possible way they can. Maybe they feel threatened by that religion or maybe they do it because there is money to be made!
The writer of this movie is a controversial figure. Anyone attempting to undertake writing and producing a movie based an historical and religious incident should have the common sense to verify details by consulting qualified historians. Did he do that? If not - then his motives are clear.

 

[England my lionheart]

Protests like these always backfire, they just act as great publicity.

Monty Python's Life Of Brian was banned in Wigan, the cinema's in Warrington (about 10-miles away) were packed.

It certainly backfired and like you say filled the cinemas,harmless movie really.