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Featured The lady of heaven movie and Sunni protests

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by England my lionheart, Jun 13, 2022.

  1. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Cine world in the uk has scrapped plans to screen “The lady of heaven” because of Sunni Muslim protests outside of cinemas for fear of violence on their staff,imo it’s even more reason to screen it.,we should stand up for our freedoms.


    The film claims to tell the story of Lady Fatima, the daughter of Prophet Muhammad.

    The Supreme Ulema Council said the movie was a "flagrant falsification of the established facts" of Islam.

    There have been protests against the film in the UK. Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq have also denounced it.

    The council accused the film of "loathsome partiality" and accused the filmmakers of seeking "fame and sensationalism" and "hurting the feelings of Muslims and stirring up religious sensitivities", according to Moroccan state media.

    The BBC's Religion Editor, Aleem Maqbool, says the criticism centres on the the way the Shia Muslim film-maker and cleric, Yasser Al-Habib, has portrayed prominent revered figures in early Sunni Islam, implying that there are comparisons between their actions with those of the Islamic State group in Iraq.

    The film's producer Malik Shlibak has lambasted those who want the film banned on his social media, describing it as bigotry and telling them if they did not like the film they should not watch it, as opposed to censoring it.

    The Lady of Heaven film: Morocco bans ‘blasphemous’ British film
     
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    If it were about Jesus no-one would care.

    Double standards.
     
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    Did you abdicate freedom of expression because of religious mobs? Who would do that?

    And, honestly, who cares about the feelings of Muslims, when it comes between deciding between them, and our freedom?

    Instead of whining, they should just grow a thicker skin. And learn that in the West we have freedom of expression, even if that involves ridiculing ancient superstition that some cultures, for some reason, believe they have to be unconditionally respected.

    And if they do not like it, then they should probably not live here. They are perfectly free to live. Nobody will keep them. I am sure there is no doctors that require Muslims to live in the west, if they do not like our ways.

    Ciao

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  4. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Seems to me that their religion is so fragile that they behave this way,if it was strong it could withstand anything,cartoons Charlie Hebdo and all.
     
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    They should certainly screen it.
     
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    Which should not be necessary.

    After all, they come here. it is not us going there. Honestly, I am not aware of Islamic cultures providing any prosperity to a society, unless they sit on an ocean of natural resources.

    So, it should be clear what culture is feeding what culture, and that attacking it would be like spitting on the dish that feeds them.

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    I wonder if the Supreme Ulema Council ever takes the feelings of people of other religions into consideration. I feel that it would be very kind and considerate if they were to get halal butchers to stop killing cows, the most sacred animals in my religion.
     
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    I wonder if it would be the same if it was an American flick though, as Christianity is still a big thing in the US compared to (Western) Europe.
    I feel it's easier for Europeans to get away with mockery or cynical depictions of Jesus and/or Christians compared to the USA.

    But Islam appears to have a different status.
     
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    Islam is broadly untouchable. It's a double standard.
     
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  10. England my lionheart

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    I agree,them coming here is not the problem but they bring their culture with them and recreate the same backward culture here and imo that’s the problem.
     
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    Good and fair point but you know that won’t happen,as they will tell you there is only one true religion.
     
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    Perhaps for the same reasons many people in Mexico don't dare to speak out against important figures involved in drug cartels.
    They might hurt or kill you if you do.
     
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    May God curse him and put him in the lowest place of fire, the 7th gate to hell and make enter through 7th gate of hell and seal his heart with no return to redemption neither this world or next, but die cursed. Amen.
     
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    Imam Hassan (a) was betrayed because his army got bought out by Mauwiya. To save believers, he had to a treaty with him. Betrayal by being offered money, same way I got offered 20 000 dollars a day by Illuminati to join.

    Yasser Al-Habib is being funded and supported by same people who created ISIS. By the same people who murdered the man who was biggest factor to stopping ISIS.

    The intention of creating ISIS is one and the same of creating this Film.

    Those who have insight know, and those who are fools will never know the truth, because they follow liars.
     
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    Would it just be easier to just not watch the movie.
     
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    I won't watch it, but there should be denouncements of all Muslim leaders include Shiite leaders, to the movie and prohibit all Muslims from funding it or watching it.

    May God curse all Shiite leaders who usually do FATWAS and won't do a FATWA against this. If Sistani does not prohibit Shiites and condemn this, I'm going to expose that mole for who he is one day.
     
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    Can you prove that?.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    Those helped by Fatima (a) and Ali (a) would never support, watch, or fund this film. Those controlled by devils, that's a different story.
     
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    This is a badly produced movie with a 15 million dollar budget but today it actually became quite famous. I was honestly waiting to see someone bring it up because it was inevitable. I think it was the protests that made it so famous. The actors are pretty meagre in my opinion and the production is not very good. So the Sunni protests helped the Shii director famous, and they helped promoting the film immensely. Almost every single person I have come across speaking about this movie got to know about it because the protests were discussed in the media. So the Shii director should be happy.

    Mind you, Shii ayatollah's have condemned the movie because of it's instigation.

    I don't agree with the protests because all it did was to promote the movie. But I am no analyst in that so maybe it has done some good. This is my personal feeling that protests like this are just useless. It's like playing the game someone started like an idiot.

    Have you seen the movie? Think about it. There are some historical figures who Shii's consider as political enemies. Why do you think they hired black actors for the enemies? Does the colour of skin depict good guys and bad guys? This is the dirty mentality of the producer. This is demonising the black skin. But you should see Ali in that. White skin, graceful, dresses like an angel. But see, they are all from the same tribe. How could the good guy be white, and the bad guys be black?

    Why have they equated their so called early black dirty guys equated to the ISIS?

    When you watch it it's easily seen that they are intentionally instigating trouble. On purpose. Lets say someone made a movie about the holocaust and they are "holocaust deniers"? How would the government respond? How will people respond? But when it comes to Muslims, anything is fine. ;)

    Sad. Cheap and hypocritical.
     
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