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Listen while a MAGA preacher in Texas calls for execution of gay people.

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paradox

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If they not gay maybe stop having gay sex? the nausea should clear right up.
I don't think "gay sex" is major thing that one may complain about.
it's also that children are being given to gay couple for growing up without valid consent.
You can't assume a child will be homosexual once it's grows up, therefore it's forcing something un-natural upon a child.
 

KWED

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Major issue about homosexuality for people who are homophobic is nausea.
Is that not justified reason to be homophobic?
If black people made you feel nauseous, would that be a "justified reason" for being racist? Or would you just be an irrational bigot?
 

KWED

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Not justified, but saying it’s nauseating isn’t bigoted unless you are a bigot yourself.
Well obviously, if you are a bigot, you are bigoted. And saying that homosexuality is a social problem because it makes you nauseous is bigoted.

Glad you can stomach the idea and are so accommodating.
I don't have to "stomach" the idea, because I don't find it nauseating (as you also seem to).
And I am not being "accommodating" because homosexuals do not need my permission to be homosexual.
 
If black people made you feel nauseous, would that be a "justified reason" for being racist? Or would you just be an irrational bigot?
That isn’t the same thing bro. There is no sin makes you nauseous? They’re all the same, racism makes me nauseous.
 

paradox

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If black people made you feel nauseous, would that be a "justified reason" for being racist? Or would you just be an irrational bigot?
You're circumventing my point.

But let me ask you according to your logic:
Is it racist to oppose homosexuality?
 

KWED

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I don't think
That is clearly apparent.

"gay sex" is major thing that one may complain about.
So you don't find it nauseating?

it's also that children are being given to gay couple for growing up without valid consent.
Gay couples have to go through the same adoption process as straight couples - including all matters of consent.

You can't assume a child will be homosexual once it's grows up, therefore it's forcing something un-natural upon a child.
Dear god! Do you think that adoption agencies only settle gay children with gay parents? Or are you claiming that gay parents somehow force their children to be homosexual?
Either way, your ignorance is disturbing.
 

KWED

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That isn’t the same thing bro.
Why isn't it? It is discrimination based on an inherent part of a person's being.

There is no sin makes you nauseous?
I don't acknowledge the concept of "sin" as a part of modern life (ie. things that some people living in the Ancient Near East didn't like)

They’re all the same, racism makes me nauseous.
So if racism makes you nauseous, why doesn't homophobia?
 

KWED

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I see you defend your stance now by misquoting me, did you run out of sane arguments and now resort to such cheap tricks? :)
You said ...
"I don't think "gay sex" is major thing that one may complain about."
If you don't think it is a major thing to complain about, why does it make you nauseous?

Also, note that I posed it as a question, so it was requesting clarification, not representing your position. Please pay attention to what you and other people write. It will make this flow more smoothly and avoid misunderstandings.
 

KWED

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Just because a persons sin makes me nauseous doesn’t mean I find that person nauseous.
How do you separate the two? It would be like saying "I don't dislike black people, only their skin colour". A completely fatuous argument.
 

paradox

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And what point would that be?
That "gay sex" isn't the worst thing about homosexuality, but rather forcing children (who are unable to decide in their age) into gay couple childhood.

Where are the rights of children?
What is your moral reason for forcing children into gay couple?

If you don't think it is a major thing to complain about, why does it make you nauseous?
What I said is that there are things which are worse than making someone nauseous.
 

Sheldon

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Not justified, but saying it’s nauseating isn’t bigoted unless you are a bigot yourself. Glad you can stomach the idea and are so accommodating.
No. you have entirely missed the point, no one is telling anyone they can't experience nausea or believe anything they want, they are asserting that none of those justifies bigoted homophobia or persecuting gay people, and no condemning ignorance and bigoted prejudice, is not itself bigotry, that's absurd.
 
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How do you separate the two? It would be like saying "I don't dislike black people, only their skin colour". A completely fatuous argument.
You’re sounding bigoted and racist, I don’t judge people by skin color or sexual orientation, I don’t discriminate against anyone yet I find sin nauseating and destructive.
 

Sheldon

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That "gay sex" isn't the worst thing about homosexuality, but rather forcing children (who are unable to decide in their age) into gay couple childhood.

What on earth is wrong with gay people raising children? Asserting gay people can't be good parents is ignorant bigotry.

Where are the rights of children? What is your moral reason for forcing children into gay couple?

What rights have children raised by gay parents been denied exactly? What moral reason is there to deny gay parents the right to raise children?


What I said is that there are things which are worse than making someone nauseous.

Ignorant religious bigotry for example, much worse, and deeply pernicious.
 

Sheldon

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KWED said:
How do you separate the two? It would be like saying "I don't dislike black people, only their skin colour". A completely fatuous argument.
You’re sounding bigoted and racist,

No he's not, it was an analogy, you might want to consider an apology, unless that ad hominem was deliberate.

I don’t judge people by skin color or sexual orientation, I don’t discriminate against anyone yet I find sin nauseating and destructive.

Crack on, fill your boots, all we are saying is that prejudice and bigotry does not justify discriminating or persecuting anyone someone may not like or find nauseating.
 

Lyndon

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I don't think "gay sex" is major thing that one may complain about.
it's also that children are being given to gay couple for growing up without valid consent.
You can't assume a child will be homosexual once it's grows up, therefore it's forcing something un-natural upon a child.
I guess you'd have trouble with a black couple adopting a white baby too!
 

Sheldon

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it's also that children are being given to gay couple for growing up without valid consent.

Children don't give consent to be raised by heterosexual couples either, so this is asinine.

You can't assume a child will be homosexual once it's grows up, therefore it's forcing something un-natural upon a child.

Homosexuality is ubiquitous in nature, it is therefore natural by definition. My Step son and his wife divorced a few years back, and his ex wife came out as gay. They share the parenting of the three children, and they are three of the nicest most well adjusted children anyone could wish to meet.

Anyone who thinks or worse still asserts, that gay parents can't raise children or that it is harmful is simply displaying ignorant bigotry.
 
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