Is the Religious Right in America gunning for you?

[Sheldon]

If they don't, they haven't been paying attention.

The entire world of medical science isn't paying attention, but you are? I have to say I find that ludicrous bombast pretty dubious.

 

[Sheldon]

That's exactly what it is. Get real instead of hiding behind euphemisms.

I think we can euphemism to the list of words you don't understand, along with baby child infant human being and abortion.

 

[Sheldon]

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There's only one body, the insentient blastocyst is a part of it.

You know there's been people born alive that were botched abortions? People alive walking around today that were supposed to be killed by abortion. People with real, actual bodies that were supposed to be destroyed.

Which has precisely nothing to do with my post, which destroyed your previous claim, no doubt why you're keen to spin things away towards an irrelevant nonsequitur.

 

[Sheldon]

Not true. Millions are forced to have it or leave their livelyhoods.

So they're not being forced then, they have a choice. They are free to choose, what's the problem?

I love the made up "millions" though, you seem to have the conspiracist's penchant for ludicrous hyperbole.

 

[F1fan]

What I wonder about is what these religious extremists think about terminating pregnancies of fetuses that have genetic faults. If a fetus tests for a developmental handicap or a problem where the born child would not survive long after birth, are they opposed to ending that pregnancy? If so, what purpose is there to ban these terminations?

And are people aware that baby formula is scarce across the USA? What solutions do the religious right suggest if there isn't enough formula to care for all the extra children that are born in society? And BTW, the anti-abortion members have not explained how all the extra babies born will be taken care of in the USA. Do you not have any answers?

Are you just going to ban abortion and let problems of unwanted babies fill hospitals and THEN realize there is a problem to solve? Don't you care about actual living babies, or not?

And who is going to pay for the health care of all these new babies, especially to poor women?

If poor women are forced to give birth and lack the income to care for a child, what do you propose to help these families and babies? Are you right wing people going to suggest these poor families go to blue states because red states don't want to help solve problems they are causing?

Do you think the super rich megachurches should convert to being orphanages? Where are the unwanted babies going? Many families won't be able to care due to lack of money and time, so your solution is what?

 

[Wildswanderer]

But I also became a VP, in technology, for a major global company. I did that through my own hard work -- but at first....at first, yes, whether you like it or not, I did what I had to do.

Doesn't sound like you wanted to, however. Not very convincing.

 

[Wildswanderer]

But I also became a VP, in technology, for a major global company. I did that through my own hard work --

Congrats. I also built a company through my hard work. Did I have help in the beginning from my parents? Sure, I was very blessed that way. But I don't think anyone knows how hard self employment can be unless they have done it successfully.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Another reason it's so dangerous:
The scientific illiteracy is literally killing people.

The science is exactly what has shown us it's not working.

 

[Wildswanderer]

If you distrust science, take all of your technology, including whatever device you're using to access this forum, and toss it in the trash, along with any medication you take.

I don't distrust the science. Science is exactly what has shown us we need a better vaccine. If they had come out with the old style vaccine in America I would have taken it.

 

[Secret Chief]

old style vaccine

What do you mean?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Oh the irony.

You can't even argue against reproductive right objectively. You constantly use misleading words and assertions. The religious right is not a moral group of people. You are political and using this, among other, issues to divide the nation. As noted you offer no solutions to the consequences of banning abortion. You just ignore that responsibility. And that is how we know you aren't moral, nor care about actual children in the USA.

The religious right are not moral people. Moral people are accountable for what they do, and you refuse to be accountable for the consequences your tribes will cause.

Nonsense. We offer adoption, and help with unplanned pregnancy.
The consequences of letting people live? Seriously? That sounds like Nazi propaganda.
Who are the religious right?
They are normal people who work hard and keep this country from total collapse due to the lefts insane spending and support of crime. They are the ones raising thier grandkids in many cases and providing family structure to those who don't have their own.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nonsense. We offer adoption, and help with unplanned pregnancy.
The consequences of letting people live? Seriously? That sounds like Nazi propaganda.
Who are the religious right?
They are normal people who work hard and keep this country from total collapse due to the lefts insane spending and support of crime. They are the ones raising thier grandkids in many cases and providing family structure to those who don't have their own.

Crime is often the result of poverty and substandard education. Whose platforms and policies tend to contribute to that?

 

[F1fan]

Nonsense. We offer adoption, and help with unplanned pregnancy.

Sure you do, and there are many unwanted children in foster care as it is. How well prepared are you folks to cope with he huge influx of children? You folks keep citing huge numbers of babies being murdered by abortion, so now account for most of those babies in social service protection. What is your solution?

The consequences of letting people live? Seriously?

Zygotes aren't people. Seriously!!! Your propaganda doesn't work here.

But since people mean so much to you, do you support universal healthcare?

That sounds like Nazi propaganda.

Because you have an extreme and unrealistic ideal set of beliefs that don't work in reality.

Who are the religious right?

People like you who are idealistic in regards to your opposition to reproduction rights.

They are normal people who work hard and keep this country from total collapse due to the lefts insane spending and support of crime.

Yes, democrats do support investment spending so our society does not collapse. Due to democrats we survived the pandemic.

And no, democrats do not support crime. Look at who in investigation the conspiracy, fraud, and corruption of the Jen 6 riots, and trump's election fraud. It's democrats and two ethical republicans. So that destroys your bad faith claim.

They are the ones raising thier grandkids in many cases and providing family structure to those who don't have their own.

Teaching them to do what, vote for trump? Go to church? Be a moral hypocrite?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Teaching them to do what, vote for trump? Go to church? Be a moral hypocrite?

To be good moral people who don't need a government safety net.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Zygotes aren't people. Seriously!!! Your propaganda doesn't work here.

So if you let them live they come out of the womb as what?

 

[Wildswanderer]

And no, democrats do not support crime.

They are the ones defunding the police and releasing criminals back out to continue looting.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Crime is often the result of poverty and substandard education. Whose platforms and policies tend to contribute to that?

Democrat run cities have the most crime. That answers that question.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The science is exactly what has shown us it's not working.

Except we have two years and a world full of evidence showing it does.
Scientific illiteracy is dangerous. It's no different than claiming wifi causes cancer. The electromagnetic radiation emitted by wifi is beneath the visible light spectrum and thus nowhere close to being strong enough to be ionized radiation (the type that causes genetic damage that can cause cancer).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Democrat run cities have the most crime. That answers that question.

It's actually dominated by red states and cities. Even the California cities on this list tend to vote Republican.
NeighborhoodScout’s Most Dangerous Cities - 2022 - NeighborhoodScout

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

The science is exactly what has shown us it's not working.

Well, the fun thing is that it does work. But not when you bring ideology into it.
But you should know this, because you have look at all of the world and checked several sources.