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See wikipedia for example, I didn't made this up myself:
Apostasy - Wikipedia
Ah, someone nade it uo for you.
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See wikipedia for example, I didn't made this up myself:
Apostasy - Wikipedia
Certainly not, wikipedia source gives general definition.Ah, someone nade it uo for you.
Certainly not, wikipedia source gives general definition.
According to Catholic doctrine it is more specific.
footnoes from "the bible of Jerusalem" for instance are clear about what is apostasy,
there is no such thing as I accept Jesus but reject salvation, this is blasphemy not apostasy.
Cognitive dissonance is a terrible state of mind to be in.
Whatever path you think is right, take it easy, and don't be too hard on yourself.
And when you feel nothing makes sense anymore, just keep it as simple as possible: Just be, and accept whatever you're experiencing without trying to draw conclusions or trying to resist or embrace it, just be. In time you'll get your peace of mind back.
I don't know if this is too vague, but this way of thinking helps me a great deal to keep my head on my shoulders.
Not thinking is relaxing.
www.gotquestions.org is a site with Americanized Protestant views in my opinion.
www.gotquestions.org/apostasy-salvation.html
From site
It is clear from the Bible that apostates are people who made professions of faith in Jesus Christ but never genuinely received him as savior. They were pretend believers. Those who turn away from Christ never really trusted Him to begin with, as 1 John 2:19 says, “They went out with us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.” Those who apostatize are simply demonstrating that they are not tru believers, or never were.
I’m going full apostate. I renunciate my faith in Jesus Christ. I will no longer serve Him and will work on not believing Him and fearing Him.
It feels like a break up, leaving God. It’s hard to do. Hard to move forward without my partner.
I believe I believed ever so earnestly in God and Jesus Christ. My whole life. I’ve dedicated my life to God. Now I’m moving forward without Him. Does that mean I never believed?
Christian apostates, did you ever believe in God?
Christians, do you believe that apostates never had a genuine faith in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in eternal salvation? In my church, we were taught once saved, always saved. So what about the apostate? Are they still saved, in your view? What about me? I was so sure of my salvation and belief, and I’m struggling still to put away belief in Jesus Christ. But I want to move forward without Him.
Part of me still believes He’s real, but if I allow myself to entertain the idea that I could be wrong as a Christian, I find myself believing Christianity is wrong. Maybe I’m just too stubborn to turn back.
I am sure only God knows a person’s heart and mind; when or if they truly believed and expressed living faith and trust in Christ or when/ if a person turns away from Christ. I lean toward the concept that if a person is truly born again to new life, they cannot be unborn. But I certainly don’t understand everything fully. Today, I read in Proverbs 21:16 something which may be related...www.gotquestions.org is a site with Americanized Protestant views in my opinion.
www.gotquestions.org/apostasy-salvation.html
From site
It is clear from the Bible that apostates are people who made professions of faith in Jesus Christ but never genuinely received him as savior. They were pretend believers. Those who turn away from Christ never really trusted Him to begin with, as 1 John 2:19 says, “They went out with us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.” Those who apostatize are simply demonstrating that they are not tru believers, or never were.
I’m going full apostate. I renunciate my faith in Jesus Christ. I will no longer serve Him and will work on not believing Him and fearing Him.
It feels like a break up, leaving God. It’s hard to do. Hard to move forward without my partner.
I believe I believed ever so earnestly in God and Jesus Christ. My whole life. I’ve dedicated my life to God. Now I’m moving forward without Him. Does that mean I never believed?
Christian apostates, did you ever believe in God?
Christians, do you believe that apostates never had a genuine faith in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in eternal salvation? In my church, we were taught once saved, always saved. So what about the apostate? Are they still saved, in your view? What about me? I was so sure of my salvation and belief, and I’m struggling still to put away belief in Jesus Christ. But I want to move forward without Him.
Part of me still believes He’s real, but if I allow myself to entertain the idea that I could be wrong as a Christian, I find myself believing Christianity is wrong. Maybe I’m just too stubborn to turn back.
A few years back my six year old grandson was diagnosed with a nut allergy, he was having painful reactions to various foods, so he prayed to "god" to help him. When his young prayers went unanswered, he told his mother he was now an atheist, since god can't exist if it wouldn't help him.When I was a child I wanted to believe and really felt I believed. When I prayed I was usually praising and/or begging and not asking for toys. How much does a tormented child have to beg?
I suppose I am just an apostate, never believed and asked wrong.
being a believer doesn't require self to be an idolator. the idea is for the student to become like the teacher. Not idolize them. it enough to love one another.www.gotquestions.org is a site with Americanized Protestant views in my opinion.
www.gotquestions.org/apostasy-salvation.html
From site
It is clear from the Bible that apostates are people who made professions of faith in Jesus Christ but never genuinely received him as savior. They were pretend believers. Those who turn away from Christ never really trusted Him to begin with, as 1 John 2:19 says, “They went out with us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.” Those who apostatize are simply demonstrating that they are not tru believers, or never were.
I’m going full apostate. I renunciate my faith in Jesus Christ. I will no longer serve Him and will work on not believing Him and fearing Him.
It feels like a break up, leaving God. It’s hard to do. Hard to move forward without my partner.
I believe I believed ever so earnestly in God and Jesus Christ. My whole life. I’ve dedicated my life to God. Now I’m moving forward without Him. Does that mean I never believed?
Christian apostates, did you ever believe in God?
Christians, do you believe that apostates never had a genuine faith in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in eternal salvation? In my church, we were taught once saved, always saved. So what about the apostate? Are they still saved, in your view? What about me? I was so sure of my salvation and belief, and I’m struggling still to put away belief in Jesus Christ. But I want to move forward without Him.
Part of me still believes He’s real, but if I allow myself to entertain the idea that I could be wrong as a Christian, I find myself believing Christianity is wrong. Maybe I’m just too stubborn to turn back.
It's not that bad. It can even be great.The loss of faith seems horrible.
Or he has a very limited view and understanding of a god and instead views god like a pinãta.A few years back my six year old grandson was diagnosed with a nut allergy, he was having painful reactions to various foods, so he prayed to "god" to help him. When his young prayers went unanswered, he told his mother he was now an atheist, since god can't exist if it wouldn't help him.
Smart kid, or a very sh***y deity of course. Either way he (my grandson) made me smile, and not for the first time.
I never said a word... Since I have always thought it would be wrong to proselytise children.
Yeah, like the smell of Stilton cheese, but the reality is very different. I have managed without it pretty much my entire adult life... faith I mean, not stilton I ******g love it...The loss of faith seems horrible.
Liberating even.It's not that bad. It can even be great.
www.gotquestions.org is a site with Americanized Protestant views in my opinion.
www.gotquestions.org/apostasy-salvation.html
From site
It is clear from the Bible that apostates are people who made professions of faith in Jesus Christ but never genuinely received him as savior. They were pretend believers. Those who turn away from Christ never really trusted Him to begin with, as 1 John 2:19 says, “They went out with us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.” Those who apostatize are simply demonstrating that they are not tru believers, or never were.
I’m going full apostate. I renunciate my faith in Jesus Christ. I will no longer serve Him and will work on not believing Him and fearing Him.
It feels like a break up, leaving God. It’s hard to do. Hard to move forward without my partner.
I believe I believed ever so earnestly in God and Jesus Christ. My whole life. I’ve dedicated my life to God. Now I’m moving forward without Him. Does that mean I never believed?
Christian apostates, did you ever believe in God?
Christians, do you believe that apostates never had a genuine faith in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in eternal salvation? In my church, we were taught once saved, always saved. So what about the apostate? Are they still saved, in your view? What about me? I was so sure of my salvation and belief, and I’m struggling still to put away belief in Jesus Christ. But I want to move forward without Him.
Part of me still believes He’s real, but if I allow myself to entertain the idea that I could be wrong as a Christian, I find myself believing Christianity is wrong. Maybe I’m just too stubborn to turn back.
His interpretation of 1 John 2:19 is false, the context of this verse is about antichrist, not apostate:Which verse says that apostates are Christians make the profession of faith but are not genuine?
His interpretation of 1 John 2:19 is false, the context of this verse is about antichrist, not apostate:
1 John 2:18
Sure, I didn't mean to decry OP.Its absolutely false. But he is a good guy in my opinion.
Sure, I didn't mean to decry OP.
But there are no flavors of apostates.
The definition of apostasy is undoubtedly clear.
Denigrate Original Post(er)I know what you mean by it, but I dont know what "decry OP" means.
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