questfortruth
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Tell me a way how it is possible to say: "There is no God, but I will not die and I will go to God"?
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Where did world come from?
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Atheists dont believe God exists, they dont seek to be with God.
What is it with Atheism you dont get? Atheism means NO BELIEF IN GOD OR GODS.
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
Then they are hell-goners, according to the definition from my Religion. No second option for them, if God exists.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
From YOUR belief yes, just note...there are other beliefs out there in the world. You are free to believe what you want, just as any other human has the right to NOT believe God exist.
But you do a big mistake condemning someone to hell....
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
Do not lie about my words, I am not condemning. I just inform you, that according to Christianity, all Atheists will be in hell.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
You are free to believe so.
Other people may have a different religious belief than you, or no belief at all.
Nothing you can do about it.
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
I can do all I want, because I am a freethinker. I am influencing the world. Here my BIG influence on Science in 2022AD:
Evaluation of the Gauss integral
Nimos
Well-Known Member
There is a difference.
You assume that there is only one Universe, obviously ours. But we don't know that for certain or at all as a matter of fact. So we can't simply assume that there can't exist other Universes besides ours. And if these Universes are created by something that has always existed and therefore isn't created, but at the same time is not intelligent, but merely a currently unknown natural process or what to say, then our Universe could be created by this, without the need of a God.
Daniel Nicholson
Blasphemous Pryme
I can't take anything you say seriously after reading this illogical statement.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So why should we trust you're not speaking lies of the Satan?
The people who find science agreeable aren't limited to unbelievers.
According to science our solar system, and its planets including us, and its asteroids, clouds, belts &c, formed about 4.5 billion years ago from gasses, dust and fragments left over from the novas of first generation stars.
Why, what does your God say actually happened to bring the earth into existence?
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
The universe came into existence as an unintended byproduct of a cosmic pixie farting. Of course I have no verifiable evidence for this claim, but it's the exact same amount of evidence you have for your claim that some god did it.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Of course saying that there's no evidence that god exists is not the same as claiming that no god exists. But you already knew that.
ppp
Well-Known Member
You saying: God exists.
Me saying: I don't believe you know or have the ability to know what you claim.
That is atheism.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
There is a third option...that there is a world that precedes this one with a creative agent powerful enough to be a God to us, but subject to laws that confine its own actions.
ppp
Well-Known Member
You forgot sneezing tulpa. Or a non material 7 year old doing a science project. Or a cake baking experience gone horribly wrong. Or reentrant temporal insertion or a TARDIS.
Or so many other things that you can and cannot imagine.
It is my understanding Astronomers say Earth was birthed from the Sun
See above
No, atheism is the absence of Deities.
If everything is a miracle, NOTHING is a miracle. (Kenny Jones)
rational experiences
Veteran Member
A human is conscious a human.
A human observed a dead human. No conscious human.
A human observed closest biological ape life form. All observations says nothing like a humans expressive reasons.
Doesn't accept that advice wants to get into the brain mind ape. Personally the theists belief.
That same scientists says once a human was the ape
Owns machines owns human controls thoughts beliefs thesis uses those machines against healthy biology.
The human just a human born a baby mother father never knowing who that baby becomes as adult thinker.
Says as Scientists I name all things myself self idolators a human man Scientists. I use science and all things exists.
He pretends when everything that does exist hadn't existed. That exact explanation quantified the thinker a destroyer theist.
He says I look for the substance I believe created everything. If I get it I won't reverence it I will burn it up for a machines resource.
First identity says your machine hence won't exist the position why you quantified science. For human choice to react destroy change any present substance. By a machine.
So he says God is in the gaps.... meaning no thing at all
As men said a planet has to exist fully formed cooled to allow my life to stand on it.
As he can't express planet plus heavens using the same speech he directly places bio organic human life with planet sitting in space.
He said gods erection volcano mountain with space womb took hot dense gas stretched it by vacuum into clear immaculate.
In the heavens speech no human exists.
So how can science be correct when a speech told by a human displaces the human as nothing and non present also? Just in your mind.
Why did I get brain prickled gas hot attacked brother?
As your mind head one human created by two humans caused me to inherit your evil machine only thesis. You taught me what a human liar of science is.
Machine sits first with planet earths mass in space nothing to be mass present.
His theme the machine position is nothing first nothing as non present the machine state and machine as nothing where mass begins reactions as first history the fused planet.
Science is a directly known human only self idolator. As humans invented all human terms of science when created creation isn't human science.
A human observed a dead human. No conscious human.
A human observed closest biological ape life form. All observations says nothing like a humans expressive reasons.
Doesn't accept that advice wants to get into the brain mind ape. Personally the theists belief.
That same scientists says once a human was the ape
Owns machines owns human controls thoughts beliefs thesis uses those machines against healthy biology.
The human just a human born a baby mother father never knowing who that baby becomes as adult thinker.
Says as Scientists I name all things myself self idolators a human man Scientists. I use science and all things exists.
He pretends when everything that does exist hadn't existed. That exact explanation quantified the thinker a destroyer theist.
He says I look for the substance I believe created everything. If I get it I won't reverence it I will burn it up for a machines resource.
First identity says your machine hence won't exist the position why you quantified science. For human choice to react destroy change any present substance. By a machine.
So he says God is in the gaps.... meaning no thing at all
As men said a planet has to exist fully formed cooled to allow my life to stand on it.
As he can't express planet plus heavens using the same speech he directly places bio organic human life with planet sitting in space.
He said gods erection volcano mountain with space womb took hot dense gas stretched it by vacuum into clear immaculate.
In the heavens speech no human exists.
So how can science be correct when a speech told by a human displaces the human as nothing and non present also? Just in your mind.
Why did I get brain prickled gas hot attacked brother?
As your mind head one human created by two humans caused me to inherit your evil machine only thesis. You taught me what a human liar of science is.
Machine sits first with planet earths mass in space nothing to be mass present.
His theme the machine position is nothing first nothing as non present the machine state and machine as nothing where mass begins reactions as first history the fused planet.
Science is a directly known human only self idolator. As humans invented all human terms of science when created creation isn't human science.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
If a human thinker which is position first and not science a Choice said....the earth came out of the sun.
He would be the destroyer.
As earth a planet is named rock a planet earth and God by a human and it's not named by a sun god.
Compare earth to a sun forms nothing alike. Theist theme our destroyer.
Men learnt theists just humans confessed by word explanation their thesis that would destroy us.
As rock earth isn't the sun.
The human warning to humans a theist against life existing with God as earth.
He would be the destroyer.
As earth a planet is named rock a planet earth and God by a human and it's not named by a sun god.
Compare earth to a sun forms nothing alike. Theist theme our destroyer.
Men learnt theists just humans confessed by word explanation their thesis that would destroy us.
As rock earth isn't the sun.
The human warning to humans a theist against life existing with God as earth.
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
Please make difference between these two words: to create, to come.
Verb "to create" always comes with word Creator.
Verb "to come" does not need word Creator.