Democrats Push For New Voting Rights Act.

[Shaul]

And you clearly didn't read the links provided.

You clearly don’t understand U.S. postal regulations. Postal workers sell stamps and will deliver them to any postal address. That is all I addressed.

But let’s see about this.

Native Americans that live in rural areas face no more hardship to vote based on being rural mail recipients than do other non-Native Americans that live in rural areas. There are more Whites that live in rural postal addresses than minorities. The canard that minorities, such as Native Americans, have their voting rights suppressed because they live in rural areas is bogus. It is a lie.

The facts are that the Navajos had a voter participation rate of 66% in the 2020 election and the overall U.S. voter participation rate in 2020 was <drumroll please> also 66%.
Voter turnout high in Navajo, Apache counties
2020 Presidential Election: voter turnout rate U.S. 2020 | Statista
So where is this supposed suppression?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You clearly don’t understand U.S. postal regulations. Postal workers sell stamps and will deliver them to any postal address. That is all I addressed.

You'd know the issue had you read what I linked instead of going straight to taking shots. Here is the link again to get you up to speed.
How the Native American Vote Continues to be Suppressed

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It seems that since the BBB plan failed the Democrats are now pushing their voting rights agenda. I was watching a program that had two people giving their views on this subject. The person advocating for passing the voting rights put forward a couple of points.

1. Minorities have to stand in long lines without food and water to vote.

Sure that is a point but I have seen lines to vote stretched around the block and it did not consist totally of minorities, as a matter of fact the majority was not. So, the obvious solution is to have more polling places. The only issue is that in order to have more polling places you must have the volunteers to work those places and the majority of those volunteering are usually elderly men and women, (mostly women in my experience). So where are you going to get the people to volunteer to work a polling location?

2. There are not enough drop boxes for mail in ballots and in many cases they would have to go to another town to drop off their ballot.

The last time I used a mail in ballot (last election) I put a stamp on it and put it in the mail box. I would have to assume that the person advocating for changes to voting laws assumes that minorities can’t get a stamp. As far as traveling a long distance to drop off a mail in ballot, I would have to drive to the county seat (approx 20 miles and in another town). Also one must consider the security of drop boxes, but that could always be figured out. So what’s the problem?

Now I have also read and heard the complaint about ID and voting. Nowadays you have to have ID for about anything you do, from cashing a check, opening a checking account, entering a federal building, flying on commercial airlines, just to name a few. Do those that are against ID requirements to vote think that minorities are not capable of getting acceptable ID, guess they don’t cash checks, fly, open a banking account, or numerous other activities.

Now I’m sure that there are many hear that agree that a new voting acts law needs to be put in place. So, what must be included in this new law and why. Of course I would expect factual reasons and how you would accomplish say for instance getting addition polling places along with anyother problem you think restricts miniorities from voting.
Didn't seem to matter in the last presidential election, Biden flipped Georgia from a red state to a blue state.

It's offensive how lowly they seem to view minorities. I'm poor and brown (among a bunch of other things), but I still vote by mail in about every single election here (general, primaries, local issues and elections, etc.) and I have a legit SS number and state ID, that I can use to verify my identity (which I have to in order to get a mail-in ballot here).

 

[Twilight Hue]

I quit reading after that because it's clearly a load of bs.

Not when it's clear the intent is to federalize the entire voting system.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not when it's clear the intent is to federalize the entire voting system.

Yup. It still is.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yup. It still is.

Sure. Oppsie..... Send out ballots to the wrong person by 'mistake' and keep the competition without any ballot using the federal system as a partisan weapon.

Nice try but not going to pass and is going to die the death it deserves.

 

[esmith]

They do get challenged. And these laws exist, yes they do get enforced, and yes they are blatantly unconstitutional. And that's Maryland. There are several states with these laws.

So shouldn't that be the purview of the State government not the Federal government?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sure. Oppsie..... Send out ballots to the wrong person by 'mistake' and keep the competition without any ballot using the federal system as a partisan weapon.

Nice try but not going to pass and is going to die the death it deserves.

Except this scenario isn't happening. Seriously, your "side" just had their big moment to prove to the world that America's elections are prone to fraud. Your side fell flat on its face and failed to demonstrate the claims that have been made for years.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Except this scenario isn't happening. Seriously, your "side" just had their big moment to prove to the world that America's elections are prone to fraud. Your side fell flat on its face and failed to demonstrate the claims that have been made for years.

Give it a chance. It's an exploitable flaw of many and you know that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Give it a chance. It's an exploitable flaw of many and you know that.

You've had your chance. "**** or get off the pot," as they say.

 

[Kooky]

Sure. Oppsie..... Send out ballots to the wrong person by 'mistake' and keep the competition without any ballot using the federal system as a partisan weapon.

Is that how a federal government dominated by Republicans would conduct elections?

 

[Kooky]

The last time I used a mail in ballot (last election) I put a stamp on it and put it in the mail box.

Were you able to provide ID?

 

[tytlyf]

Except this scenario isn't happening. Seriously, your "side" just had their big moment to prove to the world that America's elections are prone to fraud. Your side fell flat on its face and failed to demonstrate the claims that have been made for years.

Not only did their fraud claims prove to be lies, most fraud that was found were from Trump voters.
They conveniently ignore that. We blame their media

 

[Twilight Hue]

You've had your chance. "**** or get off the pot," as they say.

I think the new voting act is going down the ****ter anyways. Flush with prejudice.

Mission accomplished.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is that how a federal government dominated by Republicans would conduct elections?

Anyone. I'd wager both would involve themselves in shenanigans if givin the chance.

 

[Kooky]

Anyone. I'd wager both would involve themselves in shenanigans if givin the chance.

So in what way are Republican-dominated state governments less likely to do the same?

 

[Twilight Hue]

So in what way are Republican-dominated state governments less likely to do the same?

I dunno. I don't live in one.

 

[esmith]

Were you able to provide ID?

Wouldn't have been sent the ballot if I couldn't.

 

[Shaul]

You'd know the issue had you read what I linked instead of going straight to taking shots. Here is the link again to get you up to speed.
How the Native American Vote Continues to be Suppressed

There was no suppression of the Navajo vote.

“In swing states like Wisconsin and Arizona, Native Americans participated at extreme high rates as part of the coalition of voters supporting Joe Biden. The Navajo Nation, with critical voters in Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, reported turnout rates as high as 90%.”
https://www.firstnations.org/news/celebrating-the-native-american-vote-in-the-2020-election/
“Navajo County experienced an incredible 66.64% voter turnout in the 2020 general election.”
Voter turnout high in Navajo, Apache counties
“About 58 percent of the three counties that overlap with the Hopi Tribe and the Navajo Nation — Apache, Coconino and Navajo — voted for Biden, according to data from the state’s election results. There was also a surge in turnout in these three counties, with thousands more people voting in Apache, Coconino and Navajo Counties than in 2016.”
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/native-american-voters-critical-to-bidens-success-in-arizona/

Turn out rates as high as 90%, same overall turnout as rest of the populace, and a surge of thousands more voters among Navajo and Native Americans. Voter suppression among Native Americans did not happen in 2020. The false narrative that Native American voting was suppressed is a lie. A lie attempting to foment racial divisiveness and rationalize anti-democratic policies. It is a racist lie.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There was no suppression of the Navajo vote.

“In swing states like Wisconsin and Arizona, Native Americans participated at extreme high rates as part of the coalition of voters supporting Joe Biden. The Navajo Nation, with critical voters in Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, reported turnout rates as high as 90%.”
https://www.firstnations.org/news/celebrating-the-native-american-vote-in-the-2020-election/
“Navajo County experienced an incredible 66.64% voter turnout in the 2020 general election.”
Voter turnout high in Navajo, Apache counties
“About 58 percent of the three counties that overlap with the Hopi Tribe and the Navajo Nation — Apache, Coconino and Navajo — voted for Biden, according to data from the state’s election results. There was also a surge in turnout in these three counties, with thousands more people voting in Apache, Coconino and Navajo Counties than in 2016.”
Native American voters critical to Biden’s success in Arizona | RochesterFirst

Turn out rates as high as 90%, same overall turnout as rest of the populace, and a surge of thousands more voters among Navajo and Native Americans. Voter suppression among Native Americans did not happen in 2020. The false narrative that Native American voting was suppressed is a lie. A lie attempting to foment racial divisiveness and rationalize anti-democratic policies. It is a racist lie.

That says nothing about the hardships many have faced. All that does is add additional evidence to the fact 2020 was a highly charged election. Everyone turned out in higher numbers.