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God is the one who's creating all the things that you see all around you.

Stevicus

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What for all human running here and there if life is purposeless ? If that purpose is something else, but NOT to find the real purpose of life -- then why don't a human stop his/her specific purpose is accomplished ? Why new purpose arise one after other every time ? :)

Humans, like other animals, all have instincts. We are ostensibly hard-wired to want to survive and an urge to procreate, along with a physical need for food, water, and air. This is true for every animal, including us. Every animal wants to live and doesn't really need a reason; it's instinctive.

At least in the sense of what we were born as and our relationship to the physical reality around us, our "purpose" (if there is one) may be tied in to what is self-evident in nature and what animals are hard-wired to do.

But there's nothing instinctive or natural about "finding purpose." That's all contrived through human thought and expression as an attempt to explain nature, without any real factual basis for doing so.

What special purpose would religion or God imply that we have? Religion suggests that humans are very small, weak, and powerless compared to the immense, infinite power of God. It also suggests that there is some glorious existence in store for us - after we're dead, while this short life we live is really just nothing by comparison. It's notions like that which cause people to try to find purpose, since they're sold on this notion of a wonderful afterlife. The best religion can offer in terms of explanations is meaningless platitudes like "God moves in mysterious ways," but the fact is, they don't have a clue either.

That's why people try to find purpose. Not because of any instinctive or inborn "duty," but because their heads have been filled with a lot of unproven and imaginative speculation about things that no human could possibly know anything about.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Read Genesis 2 & 3 for the fall
Hebrews 1 - He himself purged our sins
Revelation 21 - all things new
These are my citations

How can the bible be evidence of the bible, its a circular claim with no substance.

When i say evidence i mean third party, verifiatiable evidence that would stand up in court.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
How can the bible be evidence of the bible, its a circular claim with no substance.

When i say evidence i mean third party, verifiatiable evidence that would stand up in court.

Of what? Sometimes courts accept evidence, which is not evidence. Courts also deal in humans values and not just evidence. Or do legalistic analysis of parts of the law.
Do you believe that courts are only scientific?
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Can’t speak about experience with imaginary beings, don’t entertain such things. Although there is an invisible spiritual realm.
“He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:15-16‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Sure you do. Earlier you admitted that when something good happens in your life you pretend like your imaginary god being is responsible. You also appear to like to pretend that some invisible spirit world for which you have no evidence is also real. Clearly you entertain 'such things' on a regular basis.
 
An old collection of myths is not evidence of anything except the existence of old myths.
I found the Bible to be true, reliable, accurate and applicable for today and everyday life application. Timeless Words of life and profitable for correction, instruction that the man or woman of God can be equipped for every good work.
 
Sure you do. Earlier you admitted that when something good happens in your life you pretend like your imaginary god being is responsible. You also appear to like to pretend that some invisible spirit world for which you have no evidence is also real. Clearly you entertain 'such things' on a regular basis.
If God wasn’t real yes, but He is.
 
How can the bible be evidence of the bible, its a circular claim with no substance.

When i say evidence i mean third party, verifiatiable evidence that would stand up in court.
The Bible is verifiable because the Bible describes the world we live in, when a person is born again like I was my eyes were opened and I understood and can discern the Truth now. When looking at our world and what’s happening now God has predicted and recorded this all for us to see.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
I found the Bible to be true, reliable, accurate...

I found it to be obviously false in places, self-contradictory, and hence both unreliable and inaccurate. Are you sure you've even read it? By that I mean, actually to see what is says, rather than to confirm what you already 'know'?
 
I found it to be obviously false in places, self-contradictory, and hence both unreliable and inaccurate. Are you sure you've even read it? By that I mean, actually to see what is says, rather than to confirm what you already 'know'?
Been reading and living the Word of God for 30+ years, I found a lot of people haven’t read or understood the Bible for themselves and parrot the false interpretations of other people.
 
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