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A Bunch of Reasons Why I Question Noah's Flood Story:

tas8831

Well-Known Member
Btw I may not be humble in saying this; although our church is very wealthy, there's never been a financial scandal and only the top 15 make any money. #1 makes $90,000/yr. He has to pay for transportation and he travels all around the world. He is 97 years old, very healthy, and a world-renowned physician.
Lots of money in religion.
Money corrupts.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Cultures in ancient times were different in general from those of today. Therefore what was acceptable centuries ago, or milleniums ago, may not be acceptable today. But this is not to say that God did not work with those of a notably different mindset culturally than what we have today.
Which is exactly what we would expect if morality comes from human beings rather than from some God(s).

Thanks!
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
When I was attending UCLA I thought of myself as an atheist but then one day out of nowhere I just felt like I was being watched while I was walking by a really big building to the bus stop.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That still doesn't explain how the Isles of the Gentiles survived the flood of Noah's..
I don't see what the problem is. Look at the scripture that should explain it. There's more, but that's a start to undertanding it:
Genesis 10 -
This is the account of Noah’s sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, who also had sons after the flood.2The sons of Japheth:
Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.3The sons of Gomer:
Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.4And the sons of Javan:
Elishah, Tarshish, the Kittites, and the Rodanites.a 5From these, the maritime peoples separated into their territories, according to their languages, by clans within their nations."

Some people claim to be Christian, go to church, like their church, etc., but make fun of the Bible, right? I hope this helps to explain how these "isles" got inhabited. Perhaps you don't quite see that for some reason(?)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Some people claim to be Christian, go to church, like their church, etc., but make fun of the Bible, right?
I don't believe you have that right. Instead, maybe look at it as some of us don't believe the Bible is inerrant and somehow wasn't influenced by the culture it emerged from. However, that doesn't mean nor imply that it's trash or anything close to it.

Serious theology is to not assume things, thus certainty is the enemy of any serious theology. Plus, I would suggest that the Holy Spirit was and is at work within our faith, plus I believe that God's spirit was the impulse for the authors of the Bible to tell what they saw and/or came to believe.

IOW, God's Spirit was here long before the Bible was written-- so I believe.
 

Dropship

Member
..The geological record simply does not support the idea of a "world wide flood"..

1- The "world" of those times might simply have referred to the Tigris-Euphrates area.
2- Isaac Asimov speculates in one of his books that an asteroid may have splashed down in the Persian Gulf and the resulting mega-tsunami washed Noah's Ark all the way up the Tig-Euph flood plain to Turkey.
3- As for the impossibility of cramming every species of creature into the Ark, that could be explained in modern scientific terms by speculating that the animals were reduced to tiny DNA samples and the Ark was a "DNA Repository".

The film 'Silent Running' touched on that theme where fullsize animals and forests were housed in large domes for safekeeping pending their return to earth-

Silent Running.jpg
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
1- The "world" of those times might simply have referred to the Tigris-Euphrates area.
2- Isaac Asimov speculates in one of his books that an asteroid may have splashed down in the Persian Gulf and the resulting mega-tsunami washed Noah's Ark all the way up the Tig-Euph flood plain to Turkey.
3- As for the impossibility of cramming every species of creature into the Ark, that could be explained in modern scientific terms by speculating that the animals were reduced to tiny DNA samples and the Ark was a "DNA Repository".

The film 'Silent Running' touched on that theme where fullsize animals and forests were housed in large domes for safekeeping pending their return to earth-

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A "tiny DNA depository" would leave evidence of its existence. That clear evidence is missing.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
1- The "world" of those times might simply have referred to the Tigris-Euphrates area.
2- Isaac Asimov speculates in one of his books that an asteroid may have splashed down in the Persian Gulf and the resulting mega-tsunami washed Noah's Ark all the way up the Tig-Euph flood plain to Turkey.
3- As for the impossibility of cramming every species of creature into the Ark, that could be explained in modern scientific terms by speculating that the animals were reduced to tiny DNA samples and the Ark was a "DNA Repository".

The film 'Silent Running' touched on that theme where fullsize animals and forests were housed in large domes for safekeeping pending their return to earth-

View attachment 56062
Are you suggesting that Noah and his family actually existed and constructed modern looking domes to house all the animals on the Ark?
Seriously?
 
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