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I’m tired can’t sleep

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member

Obviously not for the same reasons as lilli van stupp but I can’t sleep sometimes, and drives me mad yawn,ideas please on how to stop thinking stuff and sleep.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member

Obviously not for the same reasons as lilli van stupp but I can’t sleep sometimes, and drives me mad yawn,ideas please on how to stop thinking stuff and sleep.

Have you recently gone down under or returned from down under? Suffering jet lag?

If so i can suggest give it a couple of days, in the meantime enjoy a nightcap of a shot of scotch or cognac in warm milk. It may not help but im told its a nice bedtime drink.

In not don't bother giving your body time to catch up, just go for the drink
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Have you recently gone down under or returned from down under? Suffering jet lag?

If so i can suggest give it a couple of days, in the meantime enjoy a nightcap of a shot of scotch or cognac in warm milk. It may not help but im told its a nice bedtime drink.

In not don't bother giving your body time to catch up, just go for the drink

Always happen in the summer for some reason,haven’t been down under although when I do I get the same problem,jet lag is real.

Im going for the scotch recommendation,I like this idea.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Always happen in the summer for some reason,haven’t been down under although when I do I get the same problem,jet lag is real.

Im going for the scotch recommendation,I like this idea.
Try regular moderate exercise, say walking a couple of miles every other day or so. I find sleeping can be a problem if my brain is tired but my body isn't. Drink is risky: often you get off to sleep, but wake up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep again*. Better to get your mind onto other things if it is thoughts that trouble you. Gentle classical music, if you like it, is good (not martial things like Beethoven's 5th, obvs.) Or reading a novel. Something that replaces what is on your mind with something else.


* Alcohol is a depressant. Your body releases more adrenalin to compensate, and when the alcohol burns off, the adrenalin wakes you up - and then you can't sleep until it settles again.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Try regular moderate exercise, say walking a couple of miles every other day or so. I find sleeping can be a problem if my brain is tired but my body isn't. Drink is risky: often you get off to sleep, but wake up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep again. Better to get your mind onto other things if it is thoughts that trouble you. Gentle classical music, if you like it, is good (not martial things like Beethoven's 5th, obvs.) Or reading a novel. Something that replaces what is on your mind with something else.

I listen to Chopin sometimes,my ex girlfriend is trying to help me meditate to train my mind to close,no joy as yet but I’ll keep trying.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I listen to Chopin sometimes,my ex girlfriend is trying to help me meditate to train my mind to close,no joy as yet but I’ll keep trying.
Chopin sounds good. Or try Bach, e.g. French Suites - or the Violin Sonatas & Partitas but played on lute or guitar. Or Handel Concerti Grossi. But enough physical exercise is also important: not to get knackered, but just tired-ish.

(Actually, now I think of it, Bach's Goldberg Variations were said to have been written for a count who couldn't sleep due to illness. Bach was paid more for them than for anything else he wrote.)
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I'd suggest a short (max 4 words) simple repeated "mantra" of your choosing. The focus on that impedes discursive thinking.
Or perhaps a poem:

Now the world has gone to bed,
Darkness won't engulf my head.
I can see by infra-red.
How I hate the night.

Now I lay me down to sleep,
Try to count electric sheep.
Sweet-dream wishes you can keep.
How I hate the night.

(Marvin, of course:D.)
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Several factors will keep me from falling asleep.

1. The room temperature needs to be right. Too hot or too cold means no sleep.
2. I need to not eat anything for several hours before going to sleep.
3. Sometimes I need to deliberately stop thinking about some project or other, and just 'daydream'. Otherwise my brain will not stop 'working' and let itself rest.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Several factors will keep me from falling asleep.

1. The room temperature needs to be right. Too hot or too cold means no sleep.
2. I need to not eat anything for several hours before going to sleep.
3. Sometimes I need to deliberately stop thinking about some project or other, and just 'daydream'. Otherwise my brain will not stop 'working' and let itself rest.

These are all important for me too.
On point 3, I'll often specifically think about something unimportant and non stressful as a way of relaxing, rather than trying to 'clear my mind'.

Who the Celtics might draft next, or similar.
 
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