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Reunification (NOT): the Israeli "left" never fails to disgust

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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So how do you expect your Israeli ethnostate to deal with the non-Jews currently living on Israeli land?
Citizenship will be handed out to those that agree to the laws of the land. That would mean becoming a Ger Toshav. Whoever's not interested in keeping the law, has no place in the land.
What does any of this have to do with what I said?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you expect a democratic "Palestinian" state must be established, for whatever reason. I'm wondering what you would think if the people of that state decided that democracy was a loser system.
 

Justanatheist

Well-Known Member
Depends whether you'd be interested in learning. If not, then we won't be teaching you anything.
Oh I am always interested in learning, I am rather dubious of being told by others that their god has made them my teacher. I get nervous when any group of people claim exceptionality for their tribe.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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Premium Member
Oh I am always interested in learning, I am rather dubious of being told by others that their god has made them my teacher. I get nervous when any group of people claim exceptionality for their tribe.
Let me put it this way: when I wrote there will be universal knowledge of God, that means there will be universal knowledge of God. If that doesn't happen, there won't really be much of a point of me coming to you and telling you things in the name of God.
 

Justanatheist

Well-Known Member
Let me put it this way: when I wrote there will be universal knowledge of God, that means there will be universal knowledge of God. If that doesn't happen, there won't really be much of a point of me coming to you and telling you things in the name of God.
That will be lovely then, but if you could ask your god to give this universal knowledge to everyone now then a lot of lives would be saved and a lot of people would not feel oppressed.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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That will be lovely then, but if you could ask your god to give this universal knowledge to everyone now then a lot of lives would be saved and a lot of people would not feel oppressed.
We do ask, every day. But we also believe God has a plan for the world.
 
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Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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I certainly don't know what you take it to mean. Before I made my post I did a bit of reading most notably Jewish eschatology - Wikipedia but also Redemption (theology) - Wikipedia as well as a bit of what I've read here and there over the years about the rebuilding of the Temple etc.
It seemed to me as though you were coming off as antagonistic to Judaism and Israel, as these threads tend to be (as is already the case in this one, too).
I made a short post on the subject, by the way:
In Jewish thought, the redemption is divided into phases. There are disagreements on what order the phases will be in, but in general, what we expect that will happen:

All of the Jewish People will be gathered from around the world to the Land of Israel. The state there will be governed according to Jewish law and led by the Jewish king, often referred to as "the Messiah". He will defeat Israel's enemies and establish peace in the world (note: he will not rule the world, only the Jewish people. The nations will still govern themselves). The Jews will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. There will be universal recognition of God, and people from the nations will come to Jerusalem to worship. The Jews will fulfill their roles as teachers of mankind, while the other nations will fulfill the various roles they were tasked with by God. Each nation has its own duty in the world. And at some point far into the future of the redeemed world, the world will transition into The-World-To-Come.
 

Justanatheist

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We believe He did.

Are you what some people may call a Palestinian?
No I am British. The country who stood alone (with her commonwealth) against that gentleman who wanted to wipe the Jews of the face of the earth.
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The people who were driven from the mandate by terrorism.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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No I am British. The country who stood alone (with her commonwealth) against that gentleman who wanted to wipe the Jews of the face of the earth.
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The people who were driven from the mandate by terrorism.
In fairness, the Brits were okay with the Arab riots and just stood aside doing nothing while Jews were slaughtered. Also, as I recall, Chamberlain freely handed some of Europe to Hitler, no?
And as I recall, the Brits did not allow Jewish refugees to enter Mandate Palestine both before, during and after the war.
I suppose that leaves one to wonder who the real terrorists were.
 

Justanatheist

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In fairness, the Brits were okay with the Arab riots and just stood aside doing nothing while Jews were slaughtered. Also, as I recall, Chamberlain freely handed some of Europe to Hitler, no?
And as I recall, the Brits did not allow Jewish refugees to enter Mandate Palestine both before, during and after the war.
I suppose that leaves one to wonder who the real terrorists were.
So was that all part of your gods plan, not a very nice one was it?
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
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Did you not, it was given to the British to uphold the mandate for the League of Nations, we were driven out by terrorism and handed the mandate over to the UN
So what would you have preferred happened in 1948?
 
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