Depends whether you'd be interested in learning. If not, then we won't be teaching you anything.Just out of interest, after you have established your theocracy what are you going to teach me?
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Depends whether you'd be interested in learning. If not, then we won't be teaching you anything.Just out of interest, after you have established your theocracy what are you going to teach me?
Citizenship will be handed out to those that agree to the laws of the land. That would mean becoming a Ger Toshav. Whoever's not interested in keeping the law, has no place in the land.So how do you expect your Israeli ethnostate to deal with the non-Jews currently living on Israeli land?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you expect a democratic "Palestinian" state must be established, for whatever reason. I'm wondering what you would think if the people of that state decided that democracy was a loser system.What does any of this have to do with what I said?
Oh I am always interested in learning, I am rather dubious of being told by others that their god has made them my teacher. I get nervous when any group of people claim exceptionality for their tribe.Depends whether you'd be interested in learning. If not, then we won't be teaching you anything.
Jewish thought and Jewish law. Large portions are extrapolated from the Tanach, the rest comes from the Jewish Oral Tradition.What is this based upon?
Let me put it this way: when I wrote there will be universal knowledge of God, that means there will be universal knowledge of God. If that doesn't happen, there won't really be much of a point of me coming to you and telling you things in the name of God.Oh I am always interested in learning, I am rather dubious of being told by others that their god has made them my teacher. I get nervous when any group of people claim exceptionality for their tribe.
That will be lovely then, but if you could ask your god to give this universal knowledge to everyone now then a lot of lives would be saved and a lot of people would not feel oppressed.Let me put it this way: when I wrote there will be universal knowledge of God, that means there will be universal knowledge of God. If that doesn't happen, there won't really be much of a point of me coming to you and telling you things in the name of God.
We do ask, every day. But we also believe God has a plan for the world.That will be lovely then, but if you could ask your god to give this universal knowledge to everyone now then a lot of lives would be saved and a lot of people would not feel oppressed.
Apparently so do lots of other gods, they are like that, funny thing is none of them ever appear to get much done.We do ask, every day. But we also believe God has a plan for the world.
Hey, we didn't have a country for 2000 years. Now we do.Apparently so do lots of other gods, they are like that, funny thing is none of them ever appear to get much done.
Yes, but god did not do that did he, you did it by terrorism against my country, killing people with bombs and stuff, even drowning your own refugees. Was that your gods plan?Hey, we didn't have a country for 2000 years. Now we do.
We believe He did.Yes, but god did not do that did he
Are you what some people may call a Palestinian?you did it by terrorism against my country, killing people with bombs and stuff, even drowning your own refugees. Was that your gods plan?
I certainly don't know what you take it to mean. Before I made my post I did a bit of reading most notably Jewish eschatology - Wikipedia but also Redemption (theology) - Wikipedia as well as a bit of what I've read here and there over the years about the rebuilding of the Temple etc.You know, I never defined the Jewish redemption on this thread. And I don't know whether you actually know what that is.
It seemed to me as though you were coming off as antagonistic to Judaism and Israel, as these threads tend to be (as is already the case in this one, too).I certainly don't know what you take it to mean. Before I made my post I did a bit of reading most notably Jewish eschatology - Wikipedia but also Redemption (theology) - Wikipedia as well as a bit of what I've read here and there over the years about the rebuilding of the Temple etc.
In Jewish thought, the redemption is divided into phases. There are disagreements on what order the phases will be in, but in general, what we expect that will happen:
All of the Jewish People will be gathered from around the world to the Land of Israel. The state there will be governed according to Jewish law and led by the Jewish king, often referred to as "the Messiah". He will defeat Israel's enemies and establish peace in the world (note: he will not rule the world, only the Jewish people. The nations will still govern themselves). The Jews will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. There will be universal recognition of God, and people from the nations will come to Jerusalem to worship. The Jews will fulfill their roles as teachers of mankind, while the other nations will fulfill the various roles they were tasked with by God. Each nation has its own duty in the world. And at some point far into the future of the redeemed world, the world will transition into The-World-To-Come.
We were? Huh!The people who were driven from the mandate by terrorism.
In fairness, the Brits were okay with the Arab riots and just stood aside doing nothing while Jews were slaughtered. Also, as I recall, Chamberlain freely handed some of Europe to Hitler, no?No I am British. The country who stood alone (with her commonwealth) against that gentleman who wanted to wipe the Jews of the face of the earth.
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The people who were driven from the mandate by terrorism.
Did you not, it was given to the British to uphold the mandate for the League of Nations, we were driven out by terrorism and handed the mandate over to the UNWe were? Huh!
Didn't know that was our home country....
So was that all part of your gods plan, not a very nice one was it?In fairness, the Brits were okay with the Arab riots and just stood aside doing nothing while Jews were slaughtered. Also, as I recall, Chamberlain freely handed some of Europe to Hitler, no?
And as I recall, the Brits did not allow Jewish refugees to enter Mandate Palestine both before, during and after the war.
I suppose that leaves one to wonder who the real terrorists were.
So what would you have preferred happened in 1948?Did you not, it was given to the British to uphold the mandate for the League of Nations, we were driven out by terrorism and handed the mandate over to the UN
I am not a god, you will have to ask the man who knows the plan.So what would you have preferred happened in 1948?