Which Old Testament Prophecy Fulfills Luke 24:46-47

[SeekingAllTruth]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.

Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

 

[InvestigateTruth]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.

Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

Did Jesus mean, it was written in old testament?

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Did Jesus mean, it was written in old testament?

Is there another writing where it appears? I assume Jesus means the OT because everything supposedly predicting him comes out of the Old Testament writings.

 

[74x12]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.

Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

It's not necessarily a specific verse but the hidden meanings of many verses throughout the old Testament. For example in Luke 24 they couldn't understand anything in the old Testament about Jesus until Jesus showed them.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

What verses from the OT might be assembled to get a an accurate picture of what Jesus is referring to? I've tried on many occasions to read websites that list the 400 scriptures that Jesus fulfilled but could not assemble a collection of specific verses that Jesus is referring to. perhaps Christians are right: the "blind" cannot see what the HS hides from them.

 

[Brickjectivity]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.

Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

Its all in how you interpret the passage. Its not a direct quote. It likely has to do with passage like this one in Jeremiah which claims the figurative death and resurrection of Rachel's children, which I will not explain. The post will get too long and then boring.

[Jer 31:3-4, 8, 13, 15-17 NIV] 3 The LORD appeared to us in the past, saying: "I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness. 4 I will build you up again, and you, Virgin Israel, will be rebuilt. Again you will take up your timbrels and go out to dance with the joyful. ... 8 See, I will bring them from the land of the north and gather them from the ends of the earth. Among them will be the blind and the lame, expectant mothers and women in labor; a great throng will return. ... 13 Then young women will dance and be glad, young men and old as well. I will turn their mourning into gladness; I will give them comfort and joy instead of sorrow. ... 15 This is what the LORD says: "A voice is heard in Ramah, mourning and great weeping, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more." 16 This is what the LORD says: "Restrain your voice from weeping and your eyes from tears, for your work will be rewarded," declares the LORD. "They will return from the land of the enemy. 17 So there is hope for your descendants," declares the LORD. "Your children will return to their own land.​

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Is there another writing where it appears? I assume Jesus means the OT because everything supposedly predicting him comes out of the Old Testament writings.

No, probably you are right.

I was thinking maybe Jesus was referring to His own words, if He made any allusion.

I believe Jesus could have meant the sign of Johannes. It is about staying in fish for three days, but it could be prophetic and an allusion to Messiah staying dead for three days, and rise.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Its all in how you interpret the passage. Its not a direct quote. It likely has to do with passage like this one in Jeremiah which claims the figurative death and resurrection of Rachel's children, which I will not explain. The post will get too long and then boring.

[Jer 31:3-4, 8, 13, 15-17 NIV] 3 The LORD appeared to us in the past, saying: "I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness. 4 I will build you up again, and you, Virgin Israel, will be rebuilt. Again you will take up your timbrels and go out to dance with the joyful. ... 8 See, I will bring them from the land of the north and gather them from the ends of the earth. Among them will be the blind and the lame, expectant mothers and women in labor; a great throng will return. ... 13 Then young women will dance and be glad, young men and old as well. I will turn their mourning into gladness; I will give them comfort and joy instead of sorrow. ... 15 This is what the LORD says: "A voice is heard in Ramah, mourning and great weeping, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more." 16 This is what the LORD says: "Restrain your voice from weeping and your eyes from tears, for your work will be rewarded," declares the LORD. "They will return from the land of the enemy. 17 So there is hope for your descendants," declares the LORD. "Your children will return to their own land.​

I could never assemble 400 prophecies like the one you quote into a statement like what Luke 24:46-47 says. I guess I must forever remain in the dark.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

No, probably you are right.

I was thinking maybe Jesus was referring to His own words, if He made any allusion.

I believe Jesus could have meant the sign of Johannes. It is about staying in fish for three days, but it could be prophetic and an allusion to Messiah staying dead for three days, and rise.

This was what I was saying to another member--that Jonah 3 days and 3 nights in the whale was likely indicative of the strong influence the pagan December 21-25 death of the sun when the sun sinks below the horizon for 3 days and "resurrects" 3 days later when the sun reappears on the horizon had on Jewish writers who were constantly incorporating 3's into their scriptures.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I could never assemble 400 prophecies like the one you quote into a statement like what Luke 24:46-47 says. I guess I must forever remain in the dark.

Luke is inscrutable. You won't find any prediction about a man dying and returning three days later, and you won't find anyone willing to explain Luke 24:46 that knows what they are talking about. I'd know by now after asking around. The best bet is that the book is completely misunderstood.

 

[Deeje]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.

Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

There is scripture outlining that Messiah would suffer and be killed......but as for the three days and nights, Jesus himself alluded to the situation of Jonah in the belly of the fish. (Matthew 12:39-40; Jonah 1:17)

Isaiah 53:2-5 outlines what was foretold as the Jewish nation’s view of him....

“No stately form does he have, nor any splendor;
And when we see him, his appearance does not draw us to him.
3 He was despised and was avoided by men,
A man who was meant for pains and was familiar with sickness.
It was as if his face were hidden from us.
He was despised, and we held him as of no account.
4 Truly he himself carried our sicknesses,
And he bore our pains.
But we considered him as plagued, stricken by God and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgression;
He was crushed for our errors.
He bore the punishment for our peace,
And because of his wounds we were healed.”

What an amazing prophesy! But it doesn’t stop there....

Psalm 34:20 even mentions that ‘not a bone of his would be broken’ which was unusual for those executed in the Roman fashion.....after maximum suffering, they would break the legs of their victims so as to hasten death at the end. The two hung alongside Jesus had their legs broken, but since Jesus has already died, no breaking of his bones was necessary. (John 19:32-34)

Zechariah 11:12-13 also speaks of Judas’ wages for his betrayal (thirty pieces of silver) being thrown back into the temple.

Isa 53:8-9...
“For he was cut off from the land of the living;
Because of the transgression of my people he received the stroke.
9 And he was given a burial place with the wicked,
And with the rich in his death,
Although he had done no wrong,
And there was no deception in his mouth.”

So even the tomb of a rich man (Joseph of Arimathea) being used after his death as a ‘wicked’ person, was prophesied.
And that he was put to death as an innocent man who spoke the truth.

It’s not hard to understand why the Jews misjudged him, but as the prophesies indicated, he was despised and treated with contempt by them. Not because he did or said anything wrong, but because he exposed the religious leaders as the hypocrites they were. (Matthew 23) They led a hate campaign against him.

Lost in the wrong mindset, influenced by corrupt leaders, I believe that the scriptures indicate that the Jews lost their inheritance as “sons of Abraham”. (Matthew 3:7-10)

 

[JustGeorge]

**Moved to Scriptural Debates**​

 

[Brickjectivity]

...but as for the three days and nights, Jesus himself alluded to the situation of Jonah in the belly of the fish...

I know that you know this reference by Jesus cannot be the prediction of Luke 24:46, not chronologically. It explains no prediction which Luke 24:46 could possibly be talking about. Our gospel literally states that Jesus explains from the scriptures how the scriptures (pronounced "Tanakhhhkkhkhhk") say the messiah must die and be resurrected after 3 days, yet there is no single passage in the scriptures stating such case or making such prediction explicitly. Who explains it? It is a gaping hole in the claim that Jesus has explained from the scriptures. I have asked all kinds of people. Nobody can explain.

It is reason enough for Christians to show some humility about our position and to not be judgmental towards either Jews or Muslims. We can't explain our position from our own scriptures. Its as simple as that.

 

[Neuropteron]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.

Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

When skeptics were looking for a sign from Jesus he answered : "...no sign will be given except the sign of Jonah" Mat 12:39..

Jonah's three days in the belly of the "fish" prefigured Jesus's time in hell/death/Sheol .

 

[URAVIP2ME]

"He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
I scoured the Old Testament looking for a passage(s) saying that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem--and I cannot find it.
Can anyone help me locate this specific prophecy?

Not in verse 47 but verse 46 would be in reference to -> Jonah 1:17
Not in Luke, but Matthew does make the connection as found at Matthew 12:39-40; Matthew 16:4.
Then Luke enters the picture at Luke 11:29.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I know that you know this reference by Jesus cannot be the prediction of Luke 24:46, not chronologically. It explains no prediction which Luke 24:46 could possibly be talking about...........

Try Luke 11:29 .....' No sign except the sign of Jonah' which is a reference to the old Hebrew Scriptures
- Jonah 1:17 and Luke 24:46

 

[Brickjectivity]

Try Luke 11:29 .....' No sign except the sign of Jonah' which is a reference to the old Hebrew Scriptures
- Jonah 1:17 and Luke 24:46

Deny the question all you like. Frustrate seekers all you like. It won't close the case.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Luke is inscrutable. You won't find any prediction about a man dying and returning three days later, and you won't find anyone willing to explain Luke 24:46 that knows what they are talking about. I'd know by now after asking around. The best bet is that the book is completely misunderstood.

Would the term, "incomprehensible" in reference to this verse be applicable?


Referring to the word, "misunderstood", is it possible the gospel in parts like this one is completely incomprehensible?

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Not in verse 47 but verse 46 would be in reference to -> Jonah 1:17
Not in Luke, but Matthew does make the connection as found at Matthew 12:39-40; Matthew 16:4.
Then Luke enters the picture at Luke 11:29.

What about the part about the gospel being preached to all nations? Where is that in the OT?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Would the term, "incomprehensible" in reference to this verse be applicable?

Boring explanations become forgotten, then they appear to be interesting secrets -- like how to make quartz watches and microwave ovens.

Referring to the word, "misunderstood", is it possible the gospel in parts like this one is completely incomprehensible?

I don't like incomprehensible, because it can be an excuse to stop trying to understand. Its comprehensible in some context that we have forgotten about.